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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
#1
What we know, based on inform from @MisterPenguin

  • This is verified by around 5 insiders, permits, the beginning of construction, and documents obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. [confirmed at D23 2017]
  • It will connect POP/AoA and Caribbean with DHS/Epcot. And likely raise the prices there.
  • Possible I.D. of the gondola make and model here.
  • Can gondolas handle wheelchairs, strollers, and EVC? Yes, here.
  • Will it be installed in other places? No plans right now, but, always a possibility if it works out well.
  • All the gondola stations will be ground level with a steep incline coming in/out [here]
  • gondolas stations will be themed to nearby architecture: International Gateway will be Parisian; DHS will be Art Deco; AoA/Pop will be a Wave (near Little Mermaid); CBR Stations will be regal and stoney (which is which isn't confirmed). [here]
  • gondolas will be 8 person cabins from Doppelmayr, have a through-put of 5,000 people per hour, have wi-fi, and ample passive ventilation [here]
  • It has been reported that the gondola's will NOT have air conditioning, but there is extensive discussion that this should not be an issue.


This has been discussed in other threads but it is time for it to have it's own thread.

Recent permits related to Caribbean Beach Resort and DHS seem to indicate that a new transportation system between CBR, DHS, Epcot and possible AOA might be in the works.

The CBR permit showed these two new structures which by themselves don't look to interesting.

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A DHS permit this week shows two more new structure around DHS, as well as a construction access road which is not shown here.

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The shapes, location, and orientation of these structure form a interesting pattern that may not be coincidental. Thanks to @P_Radden for this map.

Based on this information a gondola/skyride system of some sort looks like a possibility.

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DDLand

Well-Known Member
#6
I like it. It's cool and distinctive, but not cool enough to ruin the appeal of the monorails. The hotels getting coverage should be able to scale up thousands of rooms and this will make them that much more attractive. This will allow Disney to properly compete with mid tier Universal Hotels. This particular amenity is great and unusual.

With that said, International Gateway may need to be looked at depending on the scale of the system. If it connects with Art of Animation/Pop it may need a redesign just for capacity.

This is a much better way to get to the parks.

Edit: Disney has also been on a green push. This would reduce their carbon emissions by moving more to electric transportation. RCID already is nuclear and solar heavy as I recall, so this would fit into the plan.
 
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P_Radden

Premium Member
#9
The big thing standing out to me right now is the size of that building on the empty pad at CBR. Can someone find a decent comparison to a current WDW structure? That could be a new secondary TTC considering it's size and the area around it for parking or additional expansion
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
#12
Thinking of those 90° turns. The could have a third entrance/exit out of those structures.

Your mind just sploded. :jawdrop:
 

monothingie

CAAAANNN DO!
Premium Member
#14


Direction changing buildings are quite similar.

Is there any possibility this could be for underground utilities or infrastructure?
 

GoofGoof

Well-Known Member
#16
Gondolas and a Sky-ride are very low capacity, very susceptible to weather (wind and lightning) are incredibly unreliable, and do not have adequate climate control for a Florida. (No AC).
I'm thinking a luxury gondola more like this than a traditional sky ride:
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This is from Whistler mountain in Canada. The lift covers something like 3 miles in about 10 minutes and has 28 of these gondolas that hold up to 28 people. It has an hourly capacity of over 4,000 riders but would be less if it has to make multiple stops. I assume it could also be air conditioned for FL heat. The whole thing cost something like $50M to build a few years ago. Much cheaper than a monorail. I'm pretty sure the thunderstorms would still be a problem for these.