Club Cooloholic
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I realize that, that's why I said the court agreed with Disney.That article is old. Disney won that lawsuit.
I realize that, that's why I said the court agreed with Disney.That article is old. Disney won that lawsuit.
Security lines at the airports can get very long. I haven’t heard what accommodations they make for people with autism or anxiety. Maybe someone here can weigh in?What are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.abilitymagazine.com
The idea of what is legal has been tossed around back and forth in this thread many times already, but IMO, Disney's accommodation has always served a further purpose. To some degree, Disney's interests are served if the most people possible have a positive experience when visiting the parks.What are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.abilitymagazine.com
TSA Cares offers some options. A little like WDW, people call and discuss their specific needs. I don't know all they offer, but private screenings are an option. Some staff have extra training and expertise.Security lines at the airports can get very long. I haven’t heard what accommodations they make for people with autism or anxiety. Maybe someone here can weigh in?
Big difference waiting in one 15-20 min line vs waiting in much longer lines all day.Security lines at the airports can get very long. I haven’t heard what accommodations they make for people with autism or anxiety. Maybe someone here can weigh in?
It's going to be a fiasco because a lot of former DAS users will buy Genie+ (if they still patronize Disney).Then, there will be the "waaaghs" because former DAS users are making Genie+ run out faster.Well, will they increase the number of Genie+ sold and increase the number of return times in the system?
I think they will need to increase the number of Genie+ as will as increase the number of return times in the system to accommodate the folks who previously legitimately qualified for DAS and now do not and need to be in the shortest queue possible.
They do have the capacity if they made it similar to every other park and limited how many can buy it. Limit it to 10% of guests per day and price it accordinglyI said it might help, not that it would fix anything.
WDW does not have the capacity to make a paid line-skip system work, and they understood this during the 20+ years of free FP and FP +. Now everyone is suffering the consequences of that greed and there’s no help for that.
Sigh, yes.I think everyone can agree with this. And the current system, where a relatively small percentage of park guests were using a relatively huge amount of park capacity on all the popular rides belies that goal.
It's a finite supply of accounted for capacity.It's going to be a fiasco because a lot of former DAS users will buy Genie+ (if they still patronize Disney).Then, there will be the "waaaghs" because former DAS users are making Genie+ run out faster.
I don't know why Disney wouldn't sell tiered tickets with Genie+ and/or Individual Lightning Lanes included in the price instead of the shuffle stupidity.. The tickets are already tiered at base and park hopping. Buy once and done and maybe have a few extra each day in case a few guests decide they want to add on.They do have the capacity if they made it similar to every other park and limited how many can buy it. Limit it to 10% of guests per day and price it accordingly
Clearly TSA Precheck> Genie+.Security lines at the airports can get very long. I haven’t heard what accommodations they make for people with autism or anxiety. Maybe someone here can weigh in?
What if they increase the number of Genie+ sold to accommodate the former DAS folks. Is it possible there will be the SAME number of folks in LL queues and the only difference is most are now paying to be in the LL queue?It's going to be a fiasco because a lot of former DAS users will buy Genie+ (if they still patronize Disney).Then, there will be the "waaaghs" because former DAS users are making Genie+ run out faster.
Even if this is what happens the capacity will still be more equitably distributed because DAS users use so much more capacity than even genie+ users can.What if they increase the number of Genie+ sold to accommodate the former DAS folks. Is it possible there will be the SAME number of folks in LL queues and the only difference is most are now paying to be in the LL queue?
When the DAS changes were first announced, changes to G+ were also mentioned.I don't know why Disney wouldn't sell tiered tickets with Genie+ and/or Individual Lightning Lanes included in the price instead of the shuffle stupidity.. The tickets are already tiered at base and park hopping. Buy once and done and maybe have a few extra each day in case a few guests decide they want to add on.
That’s likely happening once the hotel reservation changes take effect at the beginning of ‘25.When the DAS changes were first announced, changes to G+ were also mentioned.
that's part of why i am reading this thread.
If G+ came with prebooks, it might mitigate the DAS changes to some degree.
They don't have the capacity to give out pre books.When the DAS changes were first announced, changes to G+ were also mentioned.
that's part of why i am reading this thread.
If G+ came with prebooks, it might mitigate the DAS changes to some degree.
They won’t do that for all the reasons in the 1,000+ page Genie+ thread.They do have the capacity if they made it similar to every other park and limited how many can buy it. Limit it to 10% of guests per day and price it accordingly
My guess is no. Genie has always been separate from das.Well, will they increase the number of Genie+ sold and increase the number of return times in the system?
I think they will need to increase the number of Genie+ as will as increase the number of return times in the system to accommodate the folks who previously legitimately qualified for DAS and now do not and need to be in the shortest queue possible.
Well they didn’t limit waits to 15 minutes lolWhat are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.abilitymagazine.com
Well you can always buy then find their are no options.It's a finite supply of accounted for capacity.
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