Exactly. And people will get upset, rightfully so, if a cast member earlier gave them the return to queue for a ride, but the next shift cast member denied it. That is not a fun way to go about your vacation, not knowing if you will get the "right" or "wrong" cast member. It just sounds like an extremely frustrating experience for everyone.
Yeah now I’m super worried. The youngest two are asd level 2, spd, adhd, and ocd. The daughter also has odd and an anger disorder as well as severe anxiety. Our house is chaos every day and I am constantly trying to end meltdowns.Hugs. How frustrating. Especially because the basic information they release makes it seem like your son should is who it should be for
That happens with Genie +, it's an opportunity for the chance for an experience at a point during they day which may or may not be convenient.
That’s awesome. Mine can’t even do 15 minutes. The girl starts screaming until she vomits and the boy screams rocks flaps and eventually will hit his head on the ground. They are between ages 11 and 14 so too big to carry out. I’m having massive panic attacks thinking about being denied. They are both level 2 with several other diagnosis. Technically other two would Qualify too but they are better able to handle things. Sadly when the younger ones go nuts, it triggers a meltdown in me too and I start crying. It’s very traumatic and then there’s always those peo ppl e that stare at you like you are the worlds worst parent
It's been a very long day in a very long week and I'm in a good amount of pain right now, so i just honestly don't have the bandwidth to go google and bring back sources and such. There's a lot readily available to read online (though don't go looking to the ADA for flight/airline stuff - that's regulated under another act I believe).What are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.abilitymagazine.com
This is something that I wanted to point out also and it goes with what you just said. I think that many are seeing this from their healthy point of view. But for many of us, we spend a good portion of the day dealing with our issues. For example, with my issue, I can get flare ups where I can't really do anything for a couple of hours other than walk from one bathroom to the next. If I had a Genie+ return time in that time frame, I would be out of luck.
The law as written is, by design, very open ended. Yes, there are some specific regulations, with the Standards for Accessible Design being the most visible and well known., but they’re not everything. The baselines is that disabilities are to be accommodated in a reasonable manner, but the specifics are up to the business to work out and then potentially defend if challenged.What are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.
Adhd and anxiety. But some combo of those are common with a lot of autism.
There’s no simple answer to what is legally required, although the 9th circuit case brought by plaintiffs who were denied DAS passes offers some clarity.What are the requirements, legally? I am just curious. Such as what does an airline or a theater have to do? For ADA , I know about requiring ways into a pool, having ways other than stairs into buildings impaired, but not sure what it is how specifically these requirements are met in other instances. I did find a bit of case law on it and Disney argument which the court agreed with was this.
From the link below:
In court documents, Disney argues that it’s impossible for them to prevent these meltdowns and that they have no legal obligation to do so. They claim the court’s decision to move the suits to trial “assumes that Disney somehow has the ability, let alone legal obligation, to prevent meltdowns with instant and unrestricted ride entry.”
Disney Working to Block Dozens of Lawsuits Related to ADA, Autism
Disney is fighting back against 30 lawsuits claiming their amusement parks have failed to reasonably accommodate visitors with severe autism.
I’m 99% sure the answer is no as that would be legally problematic. Accommodations are supposed to provide access that is closer to what a non disabled customer has. At Disney, non disabled guests can re-ride the same thing over and over, so DAS also has to allow for re-rides.
Oh I think that’s drilling down way too far in figuring out what is required in way of accommodation.
Really? That one actually seems pretty fundamental to me. If a non disabled guest wants to stand in line for Space Mountain over and over and over they are totally allowed to do that. Ergo a DAS user can do the same. I feel like limiting it would be similar to making handicapped parking spots 30 minutes only in a parking lot where everyone else can park all day.
There’s nothing to prevent a disabled guest from riding multiple times. Are you talking about giving DAS holders unlimited line-skips while Disney is selling Genie+ to many of its guests and limiting them to one ride?
The whole concept behind DAS is that it is a line alternative though, not an absolute “skip”. It’s supposed to provide equal access to lines but without standing in a physical line. Saying a disabled guest can’t stand in their accommodated version of a line as many times as they want to sounds like a clear case of discrimination, as non disabled guests can stand in line as many times as they want to.
Right now there is nothing in the law that requires Disney to give line-skips (I know what they are - same as Genie+) at all, much less unlimited ones.
This is the area I am curious to see the results. The rise of the Disney Adult influencer is good for Disney in some ways... hyping up merchandise, snacks, and general promotion. But if there is was a large swarm that would also ride the same headlines 1-2 times a week, every week, while a typical, FL AP, using standby would ebb and flow through the attractions, and only duplicate their absolute favorites. Over the course of a year, that could add up to a fair number of seats that Disney could claw back and re-distribute.
