New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

ditzee

ditzee

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Purduevian said:
Ok I'll give you that G+/ILL may have caused an uptick in DAS usage through the 944 days which then caused the need for a DAS change. However, I really don't think its as simple as G+/ILL caused DAS changes, I think it's more of an indirect relationship.

I am curious as I'm doing a thought experiment, for those that used DAS under the previous process, did the DAS system know how large your party was or did just the DAS user tap in and the rest of their party went with you? Or did everyone have to tap in?
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Yes, we had to include travel party that would be in the parks with us.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Purduevian said:
Ok I'll give you that G+/ILL may have caused an uptick in DAS usage through the 944 days which then caused the need for a DAS change. However, I really don't think its as simple as G+/ILL caused DAS changes, I think it's more of an indirect relationship.

I am curious as I'm doing a thought experiment, for those that used DAS under the previous process, did the DAS system know how large your party was or did just the DAS user tap in and the rest of their party went with you? Or did everyone have to tap in?
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My family member previously qualified for DAS and now does not.

In the old system, Disney knew exactly what the party is, in our case it was a total of 2 sometimes 3, and we all had to identify ourselves and scan our bands when we went to guest services to enable DAS.
 
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Splash4eva

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Ayla said:
The problem was a small minority of guests were using a majority of the Lightning Lane access. That was the problem, as has been explained ad nauseum.
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Hence why i said re rides are the issue. Reduce party size and get rid of pre books solves some issues which they have done. I find it funny people think lines are gonna miraculously disappear
 
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Comped

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sylasink said:
I wish you the best of luck. I think it's a shame that so many people with valid needs are being turned away. Because CP is by nature a developmental disability, I don't see why it would be denied, considering the verbage of the new system was very specific about it being for developmental conditions. I'd suggest just trying and letting them know all your reasons for needing it, CP and your vision issues.
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The problem is that I've read several other people on Reddit and elsewhere have been denied for similar muscle related issues, and told us a wheelchair or any CV which is impossible for me because of vision reasons. While the government does consider it a developmental disability, because it obviously is, I don't know if Disney and their new partners do.

Several people on Reddit have confirmed that PTSD is a qualifying condition under the new system however...
 
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sylasink

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Comped said:
The problem is that I've read several other people on Reddit and elsewhere have been denied for similar muscle related issues, and told us a wheelchair or any CV which is impossible for me because of vision reasons. While the government does consider it a developmental disability, because it obviously is, I don't know if Disney and their new partners do.

Several people on Reddit have confirmed that PTSD is a qualifying condition under the new system however...
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I never even mentioned my PTSD because I figured my other conditions were qualifying enough. Ugh.
 
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Chip Chipperson

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Purduevian said:
Ok I'll give you that G+/ILL may have caused an uptick in DAS usage through the 944 days which then caused the need for a DAS change. However, I really don't think its as simple as G+/ILL caused DAS changes, I think it's more of an indirect relationship.
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Yep. We already know that there was abuse prior to G+/ILL rolling out because Disney already had to change the previous disability accommodations, too. G+/ILL surely made it more appealing to abusers who justified it as a "Disney hack" instead of cheating the system and/or who tried to convince themselves that they're a modern-day Robin Hood taking from the greedy rich and giving to the "needy" (who just coincidentally happened to be themselves on an expensive vacation) because "Disney is already expensive enough." But the abuse isn't new, it's just more prevalent now.
 
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Batman'sParents

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ditzee said:
DAS is intended to accommodate only those Guests who, due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder, are unable to wait in a conventional queue for an extended period of time


Some of us have problems that do not fall under developmental disability like autism or similar disorder so these new rules won’t help us at all.

If the new DAS rules negatively affect you, a friend, or a family member, please let Disney know, especially if the company still does the satisfaction surveys. Those usually include a phone number at the end of the call.
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I would advise some caution around the satisfaction surveys when calling in. Those surveys at least at Disney are used to rate the performance of the cast member on the phone and not the overall company. If the cast member gets a bad rating it will negatively affect their job.
 
ditzee

ditzee

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Batman'sParents said:
I would advise some caution around the satisfaction surveys when calling in. Those surveys at least at Disney are used to rate the performance of the cast member on the phone and not the overall company. If the cast member gets a bad rating it will negatively affect their job.
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Maybe Disney doesn't do this anymore but after WDW trips, we would always get a survey about our trip satisfaction.
The only CM question was if someone did an outstanding job.
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Ayla said:
The problem was a small minority of guests were using a majority of the Lightning Lane access. That was the problem, as has been explained ad nauseum.
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Not just a majority of LL access, a supermajority of overall ride capacity (since so much of ride capacity is already dedicated to LL access).
 
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Fido Chuckwagon

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Splash4eva said:
Hence why i said re rides are the issue. Reduce party size and get rid of pre books solves some issues which they have done. I find it funny people think lines are gonna miraculously disappear
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Thinking about this in terms of a "lines" problem is wrong. It was never about the lines. It was about the capacity, and how much such a small group was using compared to everyone else. Reducing party size and getting rid of pre-books alone likely would not have been enough, at least that's the conclusion Disney came to.
 
ditzee

ditzee

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
I do think that once the lawsuit gets resolved they're going to have to go in the direction of IBCCES. It's going to be the only way to stop that kind of nonsense.
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This is what many of us would like to see. Yes, there will be some who still cheat but if they have to pay for a doctor it might end up being a wash with what G+ costs and not worth it to them.
IMO, Uni would be smart to enlarge a kiddie friendly section. That would draw people who were denied DAS at Disney.
 

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