Never in July at AS Music

:mad: :brick: When I tell yoy vacation from H___ I mean it. We were awake every night all night. We had 641 kids from Brazil in our building. They played soccer all night down in front of Broadway. Skinny dipping, running through the food court knocking people down. Screaming and yelling when they came back from the parks and buying egga God only knows where and having egg fights. From the time we checked 7/13 till the day we left 7/22 it was constant. We called security on our cell phone because our phone never worked in our room the whole time. Called about that and they finally had a guy come the last day and he couldn't fix it. Finally to top everything one night our room keys didn't work. We were locked out 45 minutes until engineering showed up. I went to the front desk after enough is enough and complained and do you know they just wanted to give me fast passes to the park. We told them no and we should get something better than that. They finally gave us 2 nights back on my credit card. They knew this when we checked in because other people already had complained. Can anyone top this.:cry:
 

wdwmomof3

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So sorry to hear about your trip. I don't think that I could have made it with all of that going on. We stayed there several years ago and had a great time but it was in Oct. and there was nothing really going on down there. I have heard so many stories about Sports being crazy because of teams of kids and cheerleaders acting up. Personally, I will never stay here again because of everything that I have read over the years. I just wonder why Disney won't do anything about it. I would be embarrassed if I was responsible for a team and they acted this way. Wouldn't you?:shrug:
 
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Miss Bell

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Speaking as both a high school teacher and a "band mom" who has chaperoned large groups of teen-agers, I do agree that most any group of teens would act in similar ways if not properly chaperoned.

The biggest problem with the Brazilian tour groups, in my opinion, is that their chaperones are not connected to them in any way, but money. They are not there with parents or teachers or basically anyone who is going to see them when they get home, but their friends. They are with a paid chaperone that has no real authority and gets no respect. (Any kid I chaperoned would not act that way, and if they did, they would be on the first plane home at Mom and Dad's expense.)

I know that Disney makes a ton of money off these and many other high school-related functions, but it is truly miserable to be there at this time of the year.
 
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cheezedoodle20

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Well, it's been 2 days since I emailed Disney's Guest communications and no answer yet. I really appreciate everyone's input into this thread. I never thought I would have such a great response. Thanks Everyone
 
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Capt. Salty

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:mad: :brick: When I tell yoy vacation from H___ I mean it. We were awake every night all night. We had 641 kids from Brazil in our building. They played soccer all night down in front of Broadway. Skinny dipping, running through the food court knocking people down. Screaming and yelling when they came back from the parks and buying egga God only knows where and having egg fights. From the time we checked 7/13 till the day we left 7/22 it was constant. We called security on our cell phone because our phone never worked in our room the whole time. Called about that and they finally had a guy come the last day and he couldn't fix it. Finally to top everything one night our room keys didn't work. We were locked out 45 minutes until engineering showed up. I went to the front desk after enough is enough and complained and do you know they just wanted to give me fast passes to the park. We told them no and we should get something better than that. They finally gave us 2 nights back on my credit card. They knew this when we checked in because other people already had complained. Can anyone top this.:cry:
We experienced a similar event every nite of our stay at AS movies. I complained several times and, ultimately, we were refunded some of our stay there, as well. They offered to move our room, too, but it wasnt until the end of our stay, and really didnt make a difference at that point.
I'm not a fan of those tour groups either!!!
 
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disneygirl1

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Gosh that really is a shame. You pay all this money to take your family to Disney and have to deal with that!!!! I have stayed at the Movies several times and never had any problems. We usually go in mid May though. Maybe it has to do w/the time of year you go. I am returning to the World in October and am staying at Music for the first time. I hope I don't have any issues.
 
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Nemo14

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Well, it's been 2 days since I emailed Disney's Guest communications and no answer yet. I really appreciate everyone's input into this thread. I never thought I would have such a great response. Thanks Everyone
It generally takes a week or 2 before they call you, or at least that has been my experience. Be patient, and as I suggested before, be prepared to talk calmly but firmly with them, and don't be afraid to ask for a supervisor, a supervisor's supevisor, etc. Just remember that the people you talk to are not the ones who angered you in the first place, so don't take it all out on them.
 
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Jessie&Buzz

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Sorry you had a horrible time. When we went in July before they were there. It wasn't fun for sure. They were really loud late at night. I hope you get an answer soon!
 
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RedBaron

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Let's just hope I get some kind of reponse from Disney. If I don't I will lose all respect from them.
I'm sure you will get a response, but you will probably not get the satisfaction you deserve. I think that is one of those things that once you have left the property, and are not face to face anymore, they feel that they don't have to do anything. You will probably get a nice note telling you how sorry they are that you did not have a nice vacation. I will however cross my fingers for you that you get something more. I myself leave for WDW in a month and would be so upset if our vacation got ruined as yours did. :eek:
 
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cheezedoodle20

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I kind of think the same way you are. Just to get 2 days was like pulling nails. You know it was because I just wouldn.t back down. That night was the night our keys wouldn.t work and we were locked out for 45 minutes, it was thundering and lightning and my husband being diabled could not stay out of the room much longer. But I continued calling every night security for the loudness from my cell phone.
 
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hls1023

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I don't believe this behaviour is in any way unique to "Brazilian" tour groups... Any large group of teens with minimal chaperon supervision are going to be unruly. It was three decades ago, but I do remember being a teen!

It just depends on when you're there... Pop Warner, Dance Championships, Cheerleader Championships, etc... All young kids without parental supervision - a recipe for trouble. This time of year is 'Winter' in Brazil, so they travel.

It would be nice if Disney could institute rules about how many chaperons have to accompany teen groups, but I suspect if they enforced it there'd just be fewer groups because the costs per teen would escalate. Dollars drive Disney, so it's unlikely they'd risk it.

You're right. My husband and I had a horrible experience one day when Disney had their "Night of Joy" concert. The kids where all running around with their church shirts on acting like a bunch of little a******s:fork: . We couldn't wait to get out of there. The only good thing was that we at least got to spend all day there before they all started rolling in for the concert.
 
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jmicro59

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Hi All,
I contacted WDW guest relations like cheezedoodle20 was doing early this morning, around 8am and much to my surprise I got a message from them left on my machine to contact Andrea Fox at my earliest convenience when I arrived home from work around 4:30. After an almost hour long talk with her I feel a little better. Here is what transpired: First I let her know that I have a substantial investment in DVC points, 5000 points (not bragging or boasting here I know that’s a lot of points) and that me and my extended family like to use them often and during our latest visit last week we had a terrible run in with the Brazilian tour groups and I gave her details and told her this wasn’t the first time. I also told her that it is totally unacceptable for a company like Disney that promotes itself as a safe and fun place for families to go and enjoy a wonderful and magical vacation together that it would allow this type of behavior to keep occurring in the parks and resorts and to have to put up with this type of behavior is just unbelievable. She asked if I reported this to any CM’s and I told her yes but what can a CM do and not to hold the CM responsible for this type of incident. This should have been taken care of by management as I know for a fact that this type of issue has been reported before by other Disney guests. She then explained that Disney can not watch every guest for every minute they are in any of the parks or resorts and I agreed with that but I said, you could assign a CM or Disney chaperone to monitor/guide these groups. She agreed with that and said it is something Disney is currently looking in to. She then offered me a full refund of my 3 AP’s but I refused (I know you’re all going to think I’m nuts for turning that down but I wanted to stand my ground) and told her I don’t want “free” things I want the problem resolved. She was speechless for a moment and then said I understand your request and I will do my best to get this to the proper people that can make these types of decisions and set operating processes. I then told her that I was going to be contacting my local media about this if this issue is not corrected and that I would also be posting online in various fan based websites to make sure every knows about this issues and to contact guest relations if they’ve had a problem similar to mine. She then told me that she will do the best she can in relaying my concerns and that if she were to get a definitive answer on this issue she would contact me directly. That’s where the call ended.

I know I’m not going to get what I want but I do feel a little better that I stood up for myself and was not just blown off. You know, now that I think of it, when we said goodbye Andrea didn’t tell me to have a magical day. Ah well, beggars can’t be choosers, right? :lol:
 
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janni518

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Good for you! Hopefully they'll sit up and take notice.

We stayed in one of the AS resorts about 6 years ago but it was November and it was just all little kids from NJ running around. A quite nice atmosphere really.
 
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wvdisneyfamily

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We snail-mailed our letters to them on Monday morning and got a phone call late Wednesday afternoon. I e-mailed about a different issue Tuesday and got a phone call this morning.
 
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mcstensrud

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These tour groups have probably already been kicked out of all off property sites and now they stay on property because Disney won't turn them away.
 
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Testtrack321

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My friend was in line at Test Track in late July. There were a group of 50 Brazilian tourists in a giant group. They were making a loud noise. He looked. They were flashing people as they walked by. All the girls. The adults/guides were encouraging them and making loud noises to get people to look. A CM saw them.

By the time he got off they were all outside the ride with about 35 disney security guards escorting them out of the park.

Nobody likes Brazilian tour groups. CMs, guests, everyone. I believe they should be banned or be forced to register with Disney and have CM and security escort them around. And not just Brazilian tour groups, but also tour groups that Disney sees as possibly being a problem. Whether it be drunk professionals, cheerleaders, or Lindsey Lohan.
 
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Hakunamatata

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Hi All,
I contacted WDW guest relations like cheezedoodle20 was doing early this morning, around 8am and much to my surprise I got a message from them left on my machine to contact Andrea Fox at my earliest convenience when I arrived home from work around 4:30. After an almost hour long talk with her I feel a little better. Here is what transpired: First I let her know that I have a substantial investment in DVC points, 5000 points (not bragging or boasting here I know that’s a lot of points) and that me and my extended family like to use them often and during our latest visit last week we had a terrible run in with the Brazilian tour groups and I gave her details and told her this wasn’t the first time. I also told her that it is totally unacceptable for a company like Disney that promotes itself as a safe and fun place for families to go and enjoy a wonderful and magical vacation together that it would allow this type of behavior to keep occurring in the parks and resorts and to have to put up with this type of behavior is just unbelievable. She asked if I reported this to any CM’s and I told her yes but what can a CM do and not to hold the CM responsible for this type of incident. This should have been taken care of by management as I know for a fact that this type of issue has been reported before by other Disney guests. She then explained that Disney can not watch every guest for every minute they are in any of the parks or resorts and I agreed with that but I said, you could assign a CM or Disney chaperone to monitor/guide these groups. She agreed with that and said it is something Disney is currently looking in to. She then offered me a full refund of my 3 AP’s but I refused (I know you’re all going to think I’m nuts for turning that down but I wanted to stand my ground) and told her I don’t want “free” things I want the problem resolved. She was speechless for a moment and then said I understand your request and I will do my best to get this to the proper people that can make these types of decisions and set operating processes. I then told her that I was going to be contacting my local media about this if this issue is not corrected and that I would also be posting online in various fan based websites to make sure every knows about this issues and to contact guest relations if they’ve had a problem similar to mine. She then told me that she will do the best she can in relaying my concerns and that if she were to get a definitive answer on this issue she would contact me directly. That’s where the call ended.

I know I’m not going to get what I want but I do feel a little better that I stood up for myself and was not just blown off. You know, now that I think of it, when we said goodbye Andrea didn’t tell me to have a magical day. Ah well, beggars can’t be choosers, right? :lol:

Oh, I bet you get plenty of follow up. I work in management....and if I was in Disney management, and a 5000 point DVC owner called with a complaint, not only would I be listening, I would be listening tentively and that guest would have my cell phone number to call if he/she ever had a problem while on property again.
 
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Tink313

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I went in July 2004,and I stayed in AS Music. And those Brazilians were there:hurl: . It was horriable. I should of complain, but didn't:dazzle:. I will NEVER go again in July. It is especially bad when waiting for the buses to go back to the hotel. They scream push and cut the lines. When we stay at as movies or music in August I never see them. And it is great without them.:sohappy:
 
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cheezedoodle20

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It's look like to me I am probably never going to hear from. I contacted way before some of you and still have not heard anything. Maybe I'll stop and think about going over to Universal and staying next time, or do they have the same problem?
 
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