MyMagic+ testing beginning with limited number of Annual Passholders during the next few weeks

NearTheEars

Well-Known Member
Flip it around.. and say 'I have this AP card... what does the MB offer me'. Try coming up with a list of things it does for you the AP card does not.

Nothing. Its just a new ticket medium for me and one I can easily and conveniently wear on my wrist if I find it comfortable. I think Disney just wanted a new, wearable, customizable medium to help promote FP+ and its access points. That is a debate I don't want to touch.

Like you pointed out, all i care about is our ability to use FP+. If they would have said just use your card I would have been just as happily on board.

And if they said use a magic band ( which they have for the new test) I'm happy to use it too.
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
The MBs have the most convenience for resort customers (surprise!). They are your admission ticket, FP+ access, room key, and charging mechanism. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be carrying around other backup ID, if needed. When I lost my MB, I was grateful I still had my KTTW to use as my room key and my AP card for park admission/FP+ access. Sure, I could have also used the MB to charge everything to my room. But after losing the MB, I still had my credit card.

I get flynnibus' argument -- the MB should be the be all and end all. I too will gladly use the MB for the all-in-one access it provides while I'm wearing it. But I would turn his argument on it's head. Why trust everything to the MB only and not have the sense to carry around the other cards, even as backup, if needed?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Why trust everything to the MB only and not have the sense to carry around the other cards, even as backup, if needed?

Did you feel you needed a backup to your KTTW card for all these years for your ticket medium? Or where was the backup to your AP card?

You've bought into the 'you should have a backup' to your ticket mindset without even realizing it's a NEW thing because the new system is deficient. Hook line and sinker...

What I'm trying to illustrate to you is how I'm frustrated with the lack of execution, failures, and disappointment... and you are happy to buy in just because they gave you something. Let me illustrate to you with an analogy...

The car maker Xylo has a long standing reputation as great cars and having great customer service. You've always bought Xylo cars and love them. Now you go and buy the new Fanthom car model from a Xylo dealership.
The Fanthom has a great feature set including great gas mileage and keyless remote. You buy the car and when you get home, you realize the keyless remote doesn't work as the sales guy demo'd it. You take it to the dealership.. and they say 'oh, you bought the LX model.. the keyless remote doesn't work for the LX model yet.. but it will in a few months. In the meantime, just use your car key'

You go home miffed.. but they say its coming.. so you wait. Then after a few weeks, you find you are getting miserable gas mileage.. yet the car is supposed to get twice what you are getting. You take it to the dealer.. and they say, ok, we'll fix it. They call you back the next day, saying it's fixed, but after a few days you notice no change, so you take it back to the dealer again. The cycle repeats itself. You take it back to the dealer the third time.. and they say "Well, the fuel saving system will only work that way if you let the car idle for 5 minutes before you drive.. do that and it will be fine"

Now... at this point are you happy that they fixed your gas mileage problem? Or are you ed at the dealer because
- They gave you an alternative that while feasible, is not convenient nor is it what you bought into
- They wasted a ton of your time fixing and modifying things that as part of a new car buying experience, you did not expect to have to deal with AT ALL. They are not living up to the Xylo reputation.
- They sold you on things that were incomplete and misleading
- You still don't have the feature set you bought into

Complacency is when you go 'well, they did fix my gas mileage problem' and you roll over and accept that the dealer and car company worked you over when the new car buying experience should have been NONE of that. On top of that, you still do not have what was initially promised. The dealer has redefined what is acceptable and has asked you to accept that new definition... a new definition that is inferior to what you should have.

Then your neighbor tells you 'that's garbage.. you should call it a lemon and force them to take it back' and you give them a pass and not holding them to common standards because it's Xylo.. you're convinced due to their reputation they will do 'something' and make it better. Meanwhile, your neighbor enjoys a fully functional car without any frustration.. and you convince yourself your less-than-functional car is still great because its a Xylo.

That's complacency.
 
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JohnD

Well-Known Member
Look, I try to have an honest discussion. But at some pont, "I got nuttin". You go on and on about complacency to the point it doesn't mean anything any more. I've made my point. Just because Hertz has given me the keys to have the convenience to drive a car doesn't mean I don't carry my driver's license with me. But you're going to continue shouting through the rooftops that "Disney has failed" and the rest of us are just lemmings going along with whatever they do. The only other option is not go to WDW which is a perfectfly viable option. Or, you can take part in the test and provide feedback. Anything else is just complaining. I have nothing further to add to your discussion.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Look, I try to have an honest discussion. But at some pont, "I got nuttin". You go on and on about complacency to the point it doesn't mean anything any more

I can lead a horse to water.. but I can't make it drink. I can't force you to open your eyes... but you keep loving that Xylo..
 

NearTheEars

Well-Known Member
If you participate in the test, the only media you will need is a band and a discount card. Still doesn't seem too excessive to me. But again that's only my opinion.
 

71jason

Well-Known Member
I get flynnibus' argument -- the MB should be the be all and end all. I too will gladly use the MB for the all-in-one access it provides while I'm wearing it. But I would turn his argument on it's head. Why trust everything to the MB only and not have the sense to carry around the other cards, even as backup, if needed?

But the card isn't a "back-up." It won't provide admission, or make FP reservations. It just gives free parking and a meager discount at select stores.

Besides, I already have a back-up. My driver's license. Just like today, I'm sure I'll need to show it to get a replacement admission media.

You seem awfully high on these wristbands even tho you apparently lost yours' within a just a couple months, at most, of owning it. Doesn't that indicate some sort of design flaw?

71 Jason - Owned the same Universal AP since 2001...

[The signatures, they're addictive, I can't stop myself]
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
Why?
I've got one and it's great for what it allows me to do. If you're not going to DL or WDW then it makes no sense to buy one.

I've heard there are problems with the passes, in terms of entering the parks. That could waste my time. I don't want to deal with multiple cards, either. I'll do just fine with regular tickets.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I was considering getting the Premiere passport for my future trip next year, but I believe I've changed my mind.

It's not worth it if you don't plan on making more than 14 days worth of stays. Since you were only looking at making one trip... the AP cost is going to far outweigh any AP perks you would look to gain by having the AP. I don't think the math works for your situation..
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
But the card isn't a "back-up." It won't provide admission, or make FP reservations. It just gives free parking and a meager discount at select stores.

I'm convinced that this 'additional' card is only temporary and said card in the final roll out would be a replacement for your existing AP (or at least use your existing AP). But that too has its own wth attributes... I just don't expect that 'additional' card to be perm. If they are perm... I've lost all respect for this company.
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
I've heard there are problems with the passes, in terms of entering the parks. That could waste my time. I don't want to deal with multiple cards, either. I'll do just fine with regular tickets.
The only issue we ever had was at DL where the photo they took of my wife and I never linked to our cards. They took one each day for three days and still no luck. After that we just stopped trying, we just showed our driver's license each time we entered DL. Never had any problems at all at WDW using the RFID with the card or just a MB. We bought it purely for the cost savings though, no other reason.
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
It's not worth it if you don't plan on making more than 14 days worth of stays. Since you were only looking at making one trip... the AP cost is going to far outweigh any AP perks you would look to gain by having the AP. I don't think the math works for your situation..

That's what I was thinking. The plan, so far, is to stay one full week. The Premiere is almost one thousand dollars. I don't mind paying the price for day tickets. Plus, like you said, lack of discounts.
 

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