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sublimesting

sublimesting

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From what I see nothing of this system will get you to return to the parks any sooner or at all. It is designed to fleece you for all your worth while you are there. Disney can't run a business on hoping people return. They are running a business model on assuming you won't be back so give us all you've got right now ....oh, and don't forget to tell your friends about our high tech park where we CUSTOMIZE their visits just for them months in advance!!!
 
Sue_Vongello

Sue_Vongello

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Tim_4 said:
Right, because Walt absolutely HATED using emerging technology in his creations. :rolleyes:

I get that you're trying to be droll/clever, but "Walt's corpse" jokes are just bad taste.
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Is our (my) frustration based on technology? That would be an incorrect assumption.

But maybe I am out of line ... so I ask you, would Walt have spent (whatever the amount was) XXXX of dollars on something like this (regardless of what it may turn out to be) in lieu of investing into the parks?

Maybe I am wrong but I see him fighting this tooth and nail, or at least the Walt I have read about, heard, etc ...
 
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Tim_4

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Sue_Vongello said:
But maybe I am out of line ... so I ask you, would Walt have spent (whatever the amount was) XXXX of dollars on something like this (regardless of what it may turn out to be) in lieu of investing into the parks?
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I have no idea and neither do you, that's my point. And this isn't "in lieu of investing into [sic] the parks." This IS investing in the parks. It's not the investing that Sue would do. And hey, it might not be the investing Walt would do. But it's dishonest to say it's *not* investing.
sublimesting said:
From what I see nothing of this system will get you to return to the parks any sooner or at all. It is designed to fleece you for all your worth while you are there. Disney can't run a business on hoping people return. They are running a business model on assuming you won't be back so give us all you've got right now.
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Wrong. Guest satisfaction scores are KING inside the company. They're hugely important.
 
wm49rs

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
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Tim_4 said:
I have no idea and neither do you, that's my point. And this isn't "in lieu of investing into [sic] the parks." This IS investing in the parks. It's not the investing that Sue would do. And hey, it might not be the investing Walt would do. But it's dishonest to say it's *not* investing.
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How about investing in NGE instead of placing those monies into new rides and attractions? Would that be an acceptable way to state things?
 
Sue_Vongello

Sue_Vongello

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Tim_4 said:
I have no idea and neither do you, that's my point. And this isn't "in lieu of investing into [sic] the parks." This IS investing in the parks. It's not the investing that Sue would do. And hey, it might not be the investing Walt would do. But it's dishonest to say it's *not* investing.
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Let me REPHRASE since I now know I have to be VERY exact in how things are posted ... (I apologize for not being more specific):

Would Walt have invested XXX of dollars on something like this in lieu of investing in the parks (MEANING: investing in attractions/maintenance etc ... you know the reasons people come to the parks).

And to say we have no idea is not exactly true ... Walt put the guest first, wasn't that his whole deal? To invest in something like this goes against that ideal ... but anyway ... forget it ... let's get back to bashing it in ways that doesn't involve Walt educated speculation.
 
George

George

Liker of Things
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Rodan75 said:
You know what they could do if they wanted to keep guests on property...if a magic band walks off property...they could automatically cancel the FP+ reservations. Or if a magic band hasn't entered the park by 11am for a 12noon FP+, they could cancel it.

I think some of the initial long range RFID concerns about privacy were justified, but a little overblown. The perspective opportunities to control guest behavior is pretty staggering. This will be an interesting process to observe and experience over the next few years.
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Little did Rodan75 know that his post would lead to what would be known as the "Invisible Fence" strategy by those who inhabit the ISoB (Inner Sanctum of Burbank).
 
George

George

Liker of Things
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"Honey, did you notice that there was slight burning sensation around the wrist while we were in Publix yesterday? Also, when we went to IoA I found it a bit off-putting that my magic band actually got white hot, essentially burned through the bone and removed my left hand from my arm. Luckily, it was hot enough that the stump was cauterized, but they really could've emphasized the dangers of wearing the magic band off property a bit more."
 
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Tim_4

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Sue_Vongello said:
Would Walt have invested XXX of dollars on something like this in lieu of investing in the parks (MEANING: investing in attractions/maintenance etc ... you know the reasons people come to the parks).
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Hm, so what other things should WDW NOT ever spend money on?
  • Roads
  • Toilets
  • Monorails
  • IT/finance/accounting systems
Nobody comes to WDW to experience SAP (TWDC's ERP system) or to use restrooms, so I guess those investments are out, right? Like it or not, sometimes those things are NECESSARY to make the pixie dust you're so focused on possible. Frankly, I think NextGen would have fit quite nicely in Walt's Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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Tim_4 said:
I have no idea and neither do you, that's my point. And this isn't "in lieu of investing into [sic] the parks." This IS investing in the parks. It's not the investing that Sue would do. And hey, it might not be the investing Walt would do. But it's dishonest to say it's *not* investing.

Wrong. Guest satisfaction scores are KING inside the company. They're hugely important.
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As someone who once gave those surveys, those questions are a tad skewed. Its hard to give a negative answer.
 
bugsbunny

bugsbunny

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Tim_4 said:
They DID look at their target audience and realized that their target audience has their faces buried squarely in their Galaxy S4 for 97% of their waking hours. The modern consumer is used to using things like Yelp, FourSquare, Zagat, Open Table, etc. They *get* things in this space. It's a lot when you write it all down, but the medium in which it is delivered should go a long way to make it intuitive to people.
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I highly disagree. I've been in the IT business for 20+ years working my way from Help Desk to VP level. In the end, most end users are buried in technology solely for keeping themselves amused in their own simple interest. Meaning, they want a gizmo to let them update their Facebook with a picture of their cat, not something that actually allows them to follow someone else's instructions. Most have ZERO idea of how to follow structure or any organized directions on how to use something that might actually benefit them. I get asked all the time to help "install a new messaging app on my phone so i can have smiley faces". Uh...go to the app store and install it? These are the same people who Instagram, but have no idea how to tell time if a clock isnt digital. No, Im not making this stuff up, I've lived it.

As an analogy you could say that just because people spend all day in their cars, it doesn't mean they have any idea of how to use them correctly or efficiently, especially for a new purpose.

And you can say that Disney did the research and has a plan. Custer had a plan, that really worked out.
 

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