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[HenryMystic]

MagicBand T-Shirts

http://onthegoinmco.com/2013/06/25/new-magicband-accessories-available/

How long before they hit Spirit's beloved outlet?

 

[Tim_4]

MagicBand T-Shirts

http://onthegoinmco.com/2013/06/25/new-magicband-accessories-available/

How long before they hit Spirit's beloved outlet?

Wait is that real? I've been a major band defender but that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

 

[nytimez]

Your current system is two FPs and two standby.

Same rides on the new system:
1. Fastpass TSMM.
2. Fastpass RnRC.
3. Fastpass Tower.
4. Standby Soarin'.

It actually BENEFITS you.

This is assuming they'll give you FP for all three headliners in the park - some of the people selected to test it out seem to suggest that may not be an option, at least based on what I read about the recent MK tests.

Personally, I often skip TSMM and get FP for Tower and RnR often 2-3 times each over the course of a day. Plus, I don't like to plan. I can't predict how this system will affect the masses, but everything I've read so far suggests it's a big loss for me.

The only park where this might benefit me would be Epcot, where I often get a FP for TT and Soarin', but usually only once each. But, again, that's assuming I want to plan.

I don't.

Maybe I'm in the minority. But I can't imagine I'm alone.

 

[ParentsOf4]

And I assume we can do this when we arrive for our vacation, and it won't affect the 60 plus 10 thing?

It depends when you intend to use your old tickets. FP will be around for a while.

If you intend to eventually use these tickets for FP+, you'll want to get these upgraded eventually but, for now, FP isn't going anywhere. Numerous issues remain to be resolved before FP+ will be ready for 100,000 users per day and there always were plans for a transition period. There simply are too many old tickets out there and Disney can't have 10,000 guests lining up at Guest Relations asking to have their tickets upgraded.

 

[HenryMystic]

Wait is that real? I've been a major band defender but that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

"Band together" Tim! It's all too real.

 

[PUSH]

It depends when you intend to use your old tickets. FP will be around for a while.

If you intend to eventually use these tickets for FP+, you'll want to get these upgraded eventually but, for now, FP isn't going anywhere. Numerous issues remain to be resolved before FP+ will be ready for 100,000 users per day and there always were plans for a transition period. There simply are too many old tickets out there and Disney can't have 10,000 guests lining up at Guest Relations asking to have their tickets upgraded.

Hopefully they won't be ready for our next trip (potentially in March 2014). And from what it sounds like, they might not be ready by then. I'm hoping for one more trip in "the good old days" period.

 

[nytimez]

MagicBand T-Shirts

http://onthegoinmco.com/2013/06/25/new-magicband-accessories-available/

How long before they hit Spirit's beloved outlet?

A couple I'd like to see:

BREAKING BAND
I'M THE YOKO OF THIS BAND!

 

[ParentsOf4]

Wait is that real? I've been a major band defender but that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

That's part of creating the mystique. Disney wants MagicBands to be cool so guests clamor for them.

Besides, if Turkey Legs and Monorail announcements can have their own t-shirts, then why not MagicBands?

 

[Todd H]

MagicBand T-Shirts

http://onthegoinmco.com/2013/06/25/new-magicband-accessories-available/

How long before they hit Spirit's beloved outlet?

 

[disney4life2008]

Your current system is two FPs and two standby.

Same rides on the new system:
1. Fastpass TSMM.
2. Fastpass RnRC.
3. Fastpass Tower.
4. Standby Soarin'.

It actually BENEFITS you.

This is not benefiting me. I always make it to HS prior to opening and head straight to TSMM and get a fastpass and ride at that point. Then I stand by ToT and RnRC - by 11am I have all of that and take the boat over to Epcot for lunch and FP Soarin for the next time and eat in the food court. Then standby SE, Ellen and get a FP for MS or TT. I am faling to see where this benefits me if you telling me I can only get 3 FP+ for one park whereas under the curent system I can park hop and get FP at both. Under this new system - I am going to be stuck in HS and will not want to hop over to Epcot - it would be pointless. So what is the benefit?

 

[ShookieJones]

MagicBand T-Shirts

http://onthegoinmco.com/2013/06/25/new-magicband-accessories-available/

How long before they hit Spirit's beloved outlet?

Why am I surprised by this? Shirts promoting the "awesomeness" of the MagicBand?
I'm freakin speechless.

 

[Tim_4]

This is not benefiting me. I always make it to HS prior to opening and head straight to TSMM and get a fastpass and ride at that point. Then I stand by ToT and RnRC - by 11am I have all of that and take the boat over to Epcot for lunch and FP Soarin for the next time and eat in the food court. Then standby SE, Ellen and get a FP for MS or TT. I am faling to see where this benefits me if you telling me I can only get 3 FP+ for one park whereas under the curent system I can park hop and get FP at both. Under this new system - I am going to be stuck in HS and will not want to hop over to Epcot - it would be pointless. So what is the benefit?

Why are you okay with waiting standby for Tower and Rockin' in the morning, but you're NOT okay with waiting standby for Soarin' in the evening?

 

[Tim_4]

Besides, if Turkey Legs and Monorail announcements can have their own t-shirts, then why not MagicBands?

....

I have both of those shirts.

*hangs head in shame*

 

[disney4life2008]

They DID look at their target audience and realized that their target audience has their faces buried squarely in their Galaxy S4 for 97% of their waking hours. The modern consumer is used to using things like Yelp, FourSquare, Zagat, Open Table, etc. They *get* things in this space. It's a lot when you write it all down, but the medium in which it is delivered should go a long way to make it intuitive to people.

I agree. It has bothered me that now when I go to WDW 90% of people aged 10 to 45 are glued to their phones and ipads (even worse now thats there is free wifi). When they officially sell this - the emerging technology generation will love the fact they can control everything from their phones and ipads. I am not that person - I like paper, pen and spontinaiety. I can not tell you 2 months from now I want to be standing in line for Splash Mountain at 6pm on a Friday.. that is crazy.

 

[Tim_4]

Some character greetings will be FP+ only.

So the one demographic that is totally in awe of the characters - the 5 to 10 year old - is also the demographic that will have no way of grasping why they don't get to meet Mickey because Mommy & Daddy didn't reserve the experience.

There isn't a parent on the planet that can adequately explain to a crying child why they can't meet the characters while other children can. "See Honey - there's this thing called Fast Pass Plus, so...Ok - never mind."

Effing brilliant Disney, just effing brilliant.

I really don't think that's true.

 

[ShookieJones]

All this information is teetering on really bad idea but the fastpass+ piece of this ensures it's a complete failure.
That ridiculously cute little bunny rabbit is right.

 

[disney4life2008]

Why are you okay with waiting standby for Tower and Rockin' in the morning, but you're NOT okay with waiting standby for Soarin' in the evening?

Because in the morning I have NEVER (and this has been in both off peak and peak seasons) been in line for more than 25-30 minutes for ToT and RnRC. And typically it is much quicker than that within the 1st hour as everyone is at TSMM while I have already completed that. Soarin after 1030am lists wait times at 90+ minutes - that is a NO! Hence why I leave HS and hop to Epcot and get my FP for Soarin. So I am still not seeing where it benefits me??

 

[flynnibus]

They want you to purchase a package or tickets directly from them, not via authorized or unauthorized ticket vendors. I agree the purchasing a resort stay also "counts" as a guarantee that this person is comitted financially, but like all things Disney wants control over ticket media.

I would agree if the mentality was to push everyone to buy vacation packages form Disney.. but there is no way (IMO) that they are looking to cut off all the authorized partners they have .. such as AAA, MWR, etc. Fighting the ticket resellers is about fighting the transferability. There are countless legit reasons to not buy your ticket media until onsite (upgrade, trade-in, etc). The tradeoff of burden vs gain is just too much. Choices like these hit disney where it counts.. in the pocketbook. The more scenarios you create that cause customer service calls.. that costs Disney money.

An open FP+ reservation system with no checks and balances would be equivalent to the Brazilian Tour Group Leader putting his 300+ tickets into the distribution machines for three attractions while the group is causing havoc in the All Star pool.

You mean like they will do anyways once they are in their reservation window??

There are checks and balances.. first you must have a profile.. and then you make the system interactive enough to combat gaming/scripting of it. Second.. the system would already limit the days you can get FPs by the reservation window.

There maybe scenarios that need to be combated.. like people working out how to 'trade' FP availability through the account linking.. but some destructive traits when you link/unlink can help solve those issues.

If you want the best FP+ selections, you need your tickets in advance. No will calls, exchange certificates, no purchasing tickets at the Denny's down the road.

I don't see it happening.. there are just too many legit workflows cut off by that model. Disney may not have it answered at day 1.. but they will have to bend.

 

[Tim_4]

Because in the morning I have NEVER (and this has been in both off peak and peak seasons) been in line for more than 25-30 minutes for ToT and RnRC. And typically it is much quicker than that within the 1st hour as everyone is at TSMM while I have already completed that. Soarin after 1030am lists wait times at 90+ minutes - that is a NO! Hence why I leave HS and hop to Epcot and get my FP for Soarin. So I am still not seeing where it benefits me??

But you see what you're doing? You're describing wait times that only exist in their present form BECAUSE of the current FP system. Your "strategy" works in a world where people rush to TSMM first thing in the morning and where Soarin' has 90+ minute waits after lunch time. Guest behavior and use patters are going to change under the new system. It will have its own quirks and strategies that you/we will just have to re-learn.

It's like... If all the roadways are being redesigned around your house and you'll have to take a new route to work, you can't make your decisions based on CURRENT traffic patterns, because those patters will be DIFFERENT after the redesign.

 

[ddrongowski]

Got a response to my soda machine question in another thread...

Master Yoda said: ↑

This was pretty much it. Guests did not understand how to use it and in many cases were breaking the machines. In the end they turned out to be akin to spending $100K to insure a $10k car.​

So if they couldn't handle such a simple thing is FP+ MM+ going to be easier?