News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[wdwfan4ver]

Take it with a big grain of salt. I was told that Universal IS looking to move off Superhero Island. I have questioned the source in the past and the source's track record is mixed.

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

 

[celluloid]

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

All close, BTW where sghostbusters was said to be going sooner may surprise some.

 

[Rich Brownn]

That's my perspective as well, just passing along information I was given.

With that being said, how much of an attendance and profit driver is Marvel for Universal? They can't change anything of substance so I imagine the debate is how much autonomy do they want vs. do they want to hand it back to Disney?

They can anyone in IOA in comic book form in the X family and Avengers family. Judging from the lines for Hulk and SpiderMan (which is still regarded as one of the best dark rides on the planet) they're still popular. Long after the MCU has swiped out actors the comic book versions will remain

 

[Rich Brownn]

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

Celestial park will open with Epic (since it connects all the lands it'd be like opening Disney without Main Street). There are a few restaurants that will open later (probably late 2025 or early 2026)

 

[Drew the Disney Dude]

I'm so excited about this ride you have no idea.

The potential with it is insane.

 

[celluloid]

But universal is literally giving Disney money & free advertising by keeping it. lol. It makes even less sense for them to keep super hero island in the long term when it isn't their own property. (I.E - Simpsons going away.) I understand it is under different circumstances than simpsons land. But even if they have the rights in perpetuity. Why would they continue to advertise disney properties in their parks. When instead they could use the space for their own IP.

It makes Universal a lot of money, and more than ever on the property that already did.
Makes perfect sense to keep it.

By the time Universal sees fit to give it up, it won't be worth theme park lands.

Universal's Marvel take wound up more timeless and encompassing than anything Disney has done yet.

Nothing of their own IP right now would do as well as MSHI.

It features all time greats in IP and theme park design.

 

[celluloid]

They don't care if they wholly own the IP and never have. Look at the Nintendo presence in their parks, for instance.

Or WB or Sony properties.

Disneybhas not always cared either.

 

[Schmidt]

It makes Universal a lot of money, and more than ever on the property that already did.
Makes perfect sense to keep it.

By the time Universal sees fit to give it up, it won't be worth theme park lands.

Universal's Marvel take wound up more timeless and encompassing than anything Disney has done yet.

Nothing of their own IP right now would do as well as MSHI.

It features all time greats in IP and theme park design.

Universals Marvels theme park land is outdated, and quite frankly cheap looking. I wouldn’t say it compares to anything Disney has done.

Now, Spider-Man is a great ride and would agree that Disney so far has not done a great job with the Marvel Properties at DL
Hulk is a fine coaster. Thematically it’s nothing special though.

 

[lazyboy97o]

But universal is literally giving Disney money & free advertising by keeping it. lol. It makes even less sense for them to keep super hero island in the long term when it isn't their own property. (I.E - Simpsons going away.) I understand it is under different circumstances than simpsons land. But even if they have the rights in perpetuity. Why would they continue to advertise disney properties in their parks. When instead they could use the space for their own IP.

You do realize that most of Islands of Adventure is properties that Universal doesn’t own, right? That two of the lands at Epic Universe aren’t owned by Universal? That they intend for Wizarding World and Nintendo to be in all three Universal Orlando Resort theme parks?

 

[UNCgolf]

They don't care if they wholly own the IP and never have. Look at the Nintendo presence in their parks, for instance.

They don't own Harry Potter either.

 

[celluloid]

Universals Marvels theme park land is outdated, and quite frankly cheap looking. I wouldn’t say it compares to anything Disney has done.

Now, Spider-Man is a great ride and would agree that Disney so far has not done a great job with the Marvel Properties at DL
Hulk is a fine coaster. Thematically it’s nothing special though.

It is a great balance of a land, comic book and thrill, like or not.
Which has come full circle now that we look past what the MCU phases and Disney even hits with Xmen 97 and other ventures.

It is all still better than anything Disney has done with the property.


It is not going anywhere soon.

 

[Schmidt]

It is a great balance of a land, comic book and thrill, like or not.
Which has come full circle now that we look past what the MCU phases and Disney even hits with Xmen 97 and other ventures.

It is all still better than anything Disney has done with the property.


It is not going anywhere soon.

Totally agree. Universal has no reason to give it up. I hope that section. Of IOA gets a facade overhaul though. It is getting a little worn down and long in the tooth for me.

 

[celluloid]

Totally agree. Universal has no reason to give it up. I hope that section. Of IOA gets a facade overhaul though. It is getting a little worn down and long in the tooth for me

A refresh is always good, but with animated hits from Sony with Spiderverse and Disney Plus's Xmen 97 being the most watched Marvel series ever produced, and that expanding, don't count on it.
It is IOA's Tomorrowland.

 

[Moth]

The only way Universal removes Marvel is if they get a killer app-tier IP that can easily replace it.

Pokémon would be that IP but that's reportedly going to Simpsons.

Honestly, if you are a fan of EPCOT or DHS, please pray Disney is never allowed to use Marvel in Florida. I see things going south for those two parks if the floodgates open.

 

[Schmidt]

A refresh is always good, but with animated hits from Sony with Spiderverse and Disney Plus's Xmen 97 being the most watched Marvel series ever produced, and that expanding, don't count on it.
It is IOA's Tomorrowland.

I’ll take Tomorrowland, but you enjoy!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

Isn't all this replacement and retheme what Disney fans moan about with WDW? "Don't replace, add!!"

Why isn't Uni building in the spots with nothing happening first?

Is this another way Uni is catching up to WDW?

 

[Quietmouse]

The only way Universal removes Marvel is if they get a killer app-tier IP that can easily replace it.

Pokémon would be that IP but that's reportedly going to Simpsons.

Honestly, if you are a fan of EPCOT or DHS, please pray Disney is never allowed to use Marvel in Florida. I see things going south for those two parks if the floodgates open.

I agree.

No matter what I do I can’t get into marvel. I like dc a lot, but marvel is just way to comic booky and I equally feel that’s it really difficult to make a great attraction with the ip.

The dca campus just looks less than inspired in my opinion.

 

[wdwfan4ver]

Isn't all this replacement and retheme what Disney fans moan about with WDW? "Don't replace, add!!"

Why isn't Uni building in the spots with nothing happening first?

Is this another way Uni is catching up to WDW?

Universal has no choice for replacing Simpsons due to contract ending.

Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit needs to be replaced due quality of coaster and lawsuit.

Fast & Furious: Superchanged needs to go due to it being the worst current ride in a major theme park in Florida. When people from Universal Creative regrets creating a ride, that speaks volumes on how bad Fast & Furious: Superchanged is. Also USF really can't improve much without Fast & Furious: Superchanged going away due to quality of the ride being so pathetic.

 

[Rosso11]

Take it with a big grain of salt. I was told that Universal IS looking to move off Superhero Island. I have questioned the source in the past and the source's track record is mixed.

If it is going to happen this would be the optimal time with active negotiations right now between Disney and Comcast over Hulu. I would not be surprised if this enters the conversation and becomes a bargaining chip. Stranger things have happened. Look at how Disney got the rights to Oswald back.

 

[Streetway]

The only way Universal removes Marvel is if they get a killer app-tier IP that can easily replace it.

Pokémon would be that IP but that's reportedly going to Simpsons.

Honestly, if you are a fan of EPCOT or DHS, please pray Disney is never allowed to use Marvel in Florida. I see things going south for those two parks if the floodgates open.

My big fear is muppets gets Spider-Man web slingers treatment like what happened to “it’s tough to be a bug” at dca