DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[AidenRodriguez731]

I would only accept this if they had a long term plan for the muppets somewhere else. Tbh I could see muppet labs being right at home in a revamped Tomorrowland.

Actually now that I think about it, could they move over Laugh Floor and replace with Muppet Vision? I believe its a somewhat similar space, more so than some of the other theaters ive heard.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Actually now that I think about it, could they move over Laugh Floor and replace with Muppet Vision? I believe its a somewhat similar space, more so than some of the other theaters ive heard.

Could they move it? Yeah.

But they won’t.

The last thing we need is two (technically three) empty theaters at the entrance of Tomorrowland. That’s one abandoned building short of the World of Wall-E.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Could they move it? Yeah.

But they won’t.

The last thing we need is two (technically three) empty theaters at the entrance of Tomorrowland. That’s one abandoned building short of the World of Wall-E.

I'm living in an idealized reality. Over the last while, I feel like Tomorrowland has become very easy to fix and add to. Probably genuinely one of the easiest lands save for Fantasyland.

 

[celluloid]

For the cost to move a theatrical show and get something less out of it, a budget can refresh to produce a much better version of the current show in its current theme park location. And you get a much better show out of where your dollars and other resources go.

If an attraction is moving anything more than a film, it has goals of being better/updated to be worth keeping.

 

[Streetway]

He headed the only version of Tomorrowland that has ever been cohesive and successful at MK in that time. Plus, as mentioned, there was no shortage of things going on throughout the resort as it expanded.

The guy overhauled the Onsite Hotels that existed into attractions themselves and produced the Grand Floridian.

Resort wide, too many things to mention.

Good thing for the on-site hotels. He changed the game. He also greatly modernized downtown Disney and made it better for guests of the time, with the pleasure island/general district overhaul. Quite a bit of it may not be there anymore, but he got the ball rolling for the springs to become what it is today. He also added blizzard beach and typhoon lagoon. He was one of the many important people who helped to transform wdw into the powerhouse and massive scale resort that we know and love today. I do know he DEFINITELY wasn’t perfect. Disneyland CA did kinda get screwed in its similar attempt at a “transformation” at the end of his tenure, and I’m sorry for that. They have mostly been trying to revert his mistakes there for the past 20-something years imo. Hopefully, with Disneyland forward, the second shot at it turns out better.



And I miss the tommorrowland 94. Best Tomorrowland ever.

 

[rle4lunch]

Ya'll just aren't thinking 4th dimensionally...

 

[Streetway]

Ya'll just aren't thinking 4th dimensionally...

Nah, I’m thinking 5th dimensionally….

 

[akileese]

The soul of old DHS/MGM studios died with GMR. The “heart” of DHS as a park is completely different now. IMO, MGM studios completely enters the realm of the past when twilight zone theme leaves TOT, even if star tours, Indy, and muppets stick around after.

I do hope muppets survives monsters, but a sad sort of realization that I had is that it’s probably in the latter stages of its life regardless. Grand avenue does need a refurb, and there isn’t much space to keep muppets for adding a new attraction, unless they close star tours which I doubt they do until SWGE gets an expansion. add on its age and lack of LL, MV3D is probably eventually on its way out. Hopefully the muppets get a new permanent attraction elsewhere.

Your 2nd point about a GE expansion is why I believe Monsteropolis doesn't go there. I actually don't think they can Star Tours at all. I think they find a way to retool the area during a GE expansion to make the ride vehicle fit somehow. Maybe it's not Star Tours anymore, but something else. MV3D is not long for this world. If it survives anymore than 5 years I'd be absolutely shocked, but I don't think this one is it.

 

[Streetway]

Your 2nd point about a GE expansion is why I believe Monsteropolis doesn't go there. I actually don't think they can Star Tours at all. I think they find a way to retool the area during a GE expansion to make the ride vehicle fit somehow. Maybe it's not Star Tours anymore, but something else. MV3D is not long for this world. If it survives anymore than 5 years I'd be absolutely shocked, but I don't think this one is it.

I mean it seems tailor made for something marvel, especially with the potential to use MV3D as a show building for web slingers like they did with bugs, but they can’t in Florida. And with such little space between both places, and they can’t just demolish two restaurants like melrose and Rizzo, and potentially backlot express, would be bad for the park. What other ip could they put there.

 

[Streetway]

Probably just another Star Wars thing. And while people say “keep muppetvision! It’s Jim’s last project!” I raise you this: I want it to happen, and think that could save it at most parks , even at some of the “no sacred cows” Disney world , but this is DISNEYS HOLLYWOOD STUDIOS, where all park nostalgia comes to die. We gotta look towards the future. Yes, it’ll suck to lose the original crew for the modern one, but smaller attractions, especially screen based ones, don’t really get the “gets to last forever” treatment anymore. I personally think the muppets have the stuff to live on at wdw in a new form, as they can do ANYTHING. magic kingdom is a good landing spot for our felty friends imo. Unfortunate as it is, Muppetvision just has too many external circumstances against it.

 

[Surferboy567]

"Wait a minute doc, if I drive straight toward the screen I'm gonna crash into those Indians. Marty you just aren't thinking 4th dimensionally..."

"They'll instantly be transported to 1885 and those Indians won't even be there"

Fixed it for you .

 

[LSLS]

Your 2nd point about a GE expansion is why I believe Monsteropolis doesn't go there. I actually don't think they can Star Tours at all. I think they find a way to retool the area during a GE expansion to make the ride vehicle fit somehow. Maybe it's not Star Tours anymore, but something else. MV3D is not long for this world. If it survives anymore than 5 years I'd be absolutely shocked, but I don't think this one is it.

Assuming a GE expansion is even a consideration. It's already like 14 acres, and I'm not sure it moved the needle nearly as much as they expected/hoped.

 

[rle4lunch]

"They'll instantly be transported to 1885 and those Indians won't even be there"

Fixed it for you .

"Yeah, I have a real problem with that..."


Thx for playing along

 

[RSoxNo1]

Still sad I can't seem to find a good top down view of the ride model. I went to trace the ride path and got stopped here:
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The layout model is confusing is this a quad load/unload?

 

[Horizons '83]

If it goes in animation courtyard then correct!

 

[RSoxNo1]

There its no way they are giving up one of the most recognized brands and rides in the world, for which they pay very little. Marvel was bankrupt at the time and wanted to desperately keep DC out of the park

That's my perspective as well, just passing along information I was given.

With that being said, how much of an attendance and profit driver is Marvel for Universal? They can't change anything of substance so I imagine the debate is how much autonomy do they want vs. do they want to hand it back to Disney?

 

[wdwfan4ver]

Take it with a big grain of salt. I was told that Universal IS looking to move off Superhero Island. I have questioned the source in the past and the source's track record is mixed.

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

 

[celluloid]

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

All close, BTW where sghostbusters was said to be going sooner may surprise some.

 

[Rich Brownn]

That's my perspective as well, just passing along information I was given.

With that being said, how much of an attendance and profit driver is Marvel for Universal? They can't change anything of substance so I imagine the debate is how much autonomy do they want vs. do they want to hand it back to Disney?

They can anyone in IOA in comic book form in the X family and Avengers family. Judging from the lines for Hulk and SpiderMan (which is still regarded as one of the best dark rides on the planet) they're still popular. Long after the MCU has swiped out actors the comic book versions will remain

 

[Rich Brownn]

I have a hard time to believe that due to multiple reasons starting with with the DC contract with 6 flags is not supposed end till 2053 unless the information on the Internet is wrong, or there is stuff in that contract that I'm not aware of.

The 2nd thing starts with how much construction does Universal wants to do in the next 10 years for USO starting in 2025. I think it going to be mostly Epic Universe phase 2 and USF for construction in Florida theme parks for Universal.

I heard rumors on youtube about phase 2 for Epic Universe from Alicia Stella from Theme park stop. There are at least 3 rumored things for phase 2 for Epic Universe. I said 3 because 2 dining places for Celestial Park opening sometime after Epic opens is basically a fact due to the construction time frame started on those 2 Dining places. The 3 rumored things in Phase two I'm referring to Special event stage for Celestial Park, Potter Dining location, and Luigi's Mansion.

Simpsons and Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit going away for Pokemon and a new themed coaster where Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit for USF. There also rumors of a Ghostbusters special effects show in USF with a possibility of a Fast & Furious: Superchanged replacement coming in that park also. There also is Zelda land replacing Lost Continent in IOA sometime in the 2025 to 2035 time range.

Celestial park will open with Epic (since it connects all the lands it'd be like opening Disney without Main Street). There are a few restaurants that will open later (probably late 2025 or early 2026)