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UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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MisterPenguin said:
Isn't all this replacement and retheme what Disney fans moan about with WDW? "Don't replace, add!!"

Why isn't Uni building in the spots with nothing happening first?

Is this another way Uni is catching up to WDW? ;)
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Universal's replacements have been a problem -- it's part of the reason USF has a much worse attraction lineup now than it did 25-30 years ago -- but it's a bad comparison for many reasons.
 
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celluloid

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MisterPenguin said:
Isn't all this replacement and retheme what Disney fans moan about with WDW? "Don't replace, add!!"

Why isn't Uni building in the spots with nothing happening first?

Is this another way Uni is catching up to WDW? ;)
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Universal is not 22 square miles of property and features a smaller budget...and are still adding a entirely new theme park and resort area. Subjectively aside, the Universal Orlando resort has net gained attraction real estate in the last fifteen years as well as replaced.

And another theme park venue in Texas being built too.

So they are doing both.
 
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Surferboy567

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This could mean absolutely nothing. I saw on the Twitter that a YouTube channel had a bunch of Disney Animators on a podcast and they mentioned this project.

They mention it at 46:40. I’m not sure how they’d know this but they seem to think they are tearing down the old animation building. Again, this is FAR from a reliable or even good source but I’d thought I’d say something.
 
Schmidt

Schmidt

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celluloid said:
Universal is not 22 square miles of property and features a smaller budget...and are still adding a entirely new theme park and resort area. Subjectively aside, the Universal Orlando resort has net gained attraction real estate in the last fifteen years as well as replaced.

And another theme park venue in Texas being built too.

So they are doing both.
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Why are we counting attractions or net gains like that is a bar of success? A spinner being replaced with massive attractions are not the same thing. I think doing a little critical thinking here would go along way with this topic. Capacity, scope, and quality of ride should be what we are really talking about, not ride count.

It’s like opening up gifts on Christmas morning. Do you want 15 pairs of socks, or a PlayStation?
 
wannabeBelle

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celluloid

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Schmidt said:
Why are we counting attractions or net gains like that is a bar of success? A spinner being replaced with massive attractions are not the same thing. I think doing a little critical thinking here would go along way with this topic. Capacity, scope, and quality of ride should be what we are really talking about, not ride count.

It’s like opening up gifts on Christmas morning. Do you want 15 pairs of socks, or a PlayStation?
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Agreed. But where has something like that happened?

Fast and fallon are bombs, but are either being fixed and replaced WHILE expansion is happening and has been happening for fifteen years.
Quality will always be a bit subjective even though there are definite attractions that do not please enough.
I dislike Rockit from a theme perspective, but for most people, it is not "socks." It has been a thrill ride that served many a major thrill ride's life expectancy even with its outrageous cost of issues and legal problems.
If you want to do that Christmas Day analogy:
We got socks in the stockings, but we are also getting a Next GEN PlayStation bundle (EPIC)

Same family member is getting our cousins in Texas are also getting a PlayStation, even if not a bundle (kid focused smaller park)

Even if we don't love all the socks (Fallon and Fast)


Universal has been more successful at this in the last fifteen years.

Even with the meh ride replacements.

There were additions that were dirt or nothing before.
There are not many examples of that other than Tron and Rat after stagnation with WDW's 22 square miles and far more resources including budget.


If you are truly fine and genuine with throwing out that barometer completely (there is a balance in all things though) where ride or attraction count does is no matter and quality, and scope is most important...

then EPIC will be certainly superior to any of WDW's parks right now WHILE being an entire addition.

You also admit that is a focus if Universal is planning to replace Fast and Rockit in the near future. They could just leave the ride count.

Would you say EPCOT's overhaul or lack there were worth the drought and quality and scope? How about Tron where nothing happened for over a decade in that land minus shuttering an attraction? Critical thinking going a long way here indeed.
 
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Disstevefan1

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lentesta said:
The last I heard, about a week ago, was that a site decision had still not been made.
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I take this as a good sign. It says to me there are still folks on the inside fighting to keep the muppets.

It’s too bad TWDC doesn’t have a leader that would simply say, “stay away from the Muppets. If we are not going to literally expand the park and we must destroy and replace, find a space that is under used like the launch bay, to put a new attraction.”

Alas, there is no leadership at TWDC.
 
Surferboy567

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lentesta said:
The last I heard, about a week ago, was that a site decision had still not been made.
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While I’m happy this at least gives Muppets a fighting chance, this scares me that if they don’t have a site decided on then how are they gonna decide what’s in the land? How it’s configured? Wouldn’t you make those decisions in planning?

Really hope it’s not a “flex” land that you could just drop anywhere. This project has so much possibility I don’t want them to mess this up.
 
Schmidt

Schmidt

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celluloid said:
Agreed. But where has something like that happened?

Fast and fallon are bombs, but are either being fixed and replaced WHILE expansion is happening and has been happening for fifteen years.
Quality will always be a bit subjective even though there are definite attractions that do not please enough.
I dislike Rockit from a theme perspective, but for most people, it is not "socks." It has been a thrill ride that served many a major thrill ride's life expectancy even with its outrageous cost of issues and legal problems.
If you want to do that Christmas Day analogy:
We got socks in the stockings, but we are also getting a Next GEN PlayStation bundle (EPIC)

Same family member is getting our cousins in Texas are also getting a PlayStation, even if not a bundle (kid focused smaller park)

Even if we don't love all the socks (Fallon and Fast)


Universal has been more successful at this in the last fifteen years.

Even with the meh ride replacements.

There were additions that were dirt or nothing before.
There are not many examples of that other than Tron and Rat after stagnation with WDW's 22 square miles and far more resources including budget.


If you are truly fine and genuine with throwing out that barometer completely. (there is a balance in all things though) where ride or attraction count does is no matter and quality, and scope is most important...

then EPIC will be certainly superior to any of WDW's parks right now WHILE being an entire addition.

You also admit that is a focus if Universal is planning to replace Fast and Rockit in the near future. They could just leave the ride count.

Would you say EPCOT's overhaul or lack there were worth the drought and quality and scope? How about Tron where nothing happened for over a decade in that land minus shuttering an attraction? Critical thinking going a long way here indeed.
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You are clearly the Universal version of a pixie duster. Your arguments are biased, lack critical thinking and quite frankly tell the story you want to tell. You seem too willing to give Universal a pass on almost anything and anything they do well, you inflate. Just saying a little open mindedness may make for a better conversation on your part.
 
Schmidt

Schmidt

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celluloid said:
Agreed. But where has something like that happened?

Fast and fallon are bombs, but are either being fixed and replaced WHILE expansion is happening and has been happening for fifteen years.
Quality will always be a bit subjective even though there are definite attractions that do not please enough.
I dislike Rockit from a theme perspective, but for most people, it is not "socks." It has been a thrill ride that served many a major thrill ride's life expectancy even with its outrageous cost of issues and legal problems.
If you want to do that Christmas Day analogy:
We got socks in the stockings, but we are also getting a Next GEN PlayStation bundle (EPIC)

Same family member is getting our cousins in Texas are also getting a PlayStation, even if not a bundle (kid focused smaller park)

Even if we don't love all the socks (Fallon and Fast)


Universal has been more successful at this in the last fifteen years.

Even with the meh ride replacements.

There were additions that were dirt or nothing before.
There are not many examples of that other than Tron and Rat after stagnation with WDW's 22 square miles and far more resources including budget.


If you are truly fine and genuine with throwing out that barometer completely. (there is a balance in all things though) where ride or attraction count does is no matter and quality, and scope is most important...

then EPIC will be certainly superior to any of WDW's parks right now WHILE being an entire addition.

You also admit that is a focus if Universal is planning to replace Fast and Rockit in the near future. They could just leave the ride count.

Would you say EPCOT's overhaul or lack there were worth the drought and quality and scope? How about Tron where nothing happened for over a decade in that land minus shuttering an attraction? Critical thinking going a long way here indeed.
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Mostly nonsense and dribble. I couldn’t even begin to get through this.
 
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celluloid

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Schmidt said:
Mostly nonsense and dribble. I couldn’t even begin to get through this.
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So much so you read it, responded and then quoted again in a post of yours with this insult? I called two of Universal's attractions bombs in the post you quoted twice and a third attraction that had major issues and I don't like, but somehow you could could not read once. A piece of advice, don't quote someone twice for emphasis and insult them with claims if you did not even read what was said either time. It is a hard life, but you will make it.
 
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