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News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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lazyboy97o
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Projects don’t go from Blue Sky to “moving forward.” They first go through Concept Design and Feasibility. Concept Design is its own distinct phase of design with its own criteria and objectives, and then everything is assessed and given the determinative go/no-go decision during Feasibility. From there the project moves into Schematic Design and various staff and vendors are brought on board to actually deliver a built project. It’s a major project milestone and one that is not actually reversed with any sort of regularity.
CJR
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It's our version of Disneyland's carousel theater building. Always rumored for replacement, but nothing substantial comes because there's always a lower cost option available.
Coaster Lover
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- In the Parks
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Bad news always drops on Fridays, so if they wait until Friday...
I dunno, the feature animation building being emptied makes me have some hope for it.
Friday is also the start of the muppets 70th celebration
dreamfinding
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Not to open this can of worms - but haven’t we been told they they will never do a HM overlay? People beg for Small World Holiday and Haunted Mansion Holiday, but it requires too long of a closure.
erasure fan1
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That's why I said 90% wasn't great.
Yes the Muppets was good. It's an extremely quoted movie in my house as well. Oil see, sweet sweet oil. Classic. Lol
You didn't like muppets mayhem? Everyone in my family thought it was the best muppets since Henson and crew.
Yes I do agree that Disney doesn't value them or think they are worth it.
I don't think they have given them a fair shake. You really can't sell merch that doesn't exist. Disney thinks they can't sell merch, but the truth is they really haven't tried. I was there last summer and they had one shirt in the world of Disney store. Guess the only shirt sold out? We asked if they would get more in within the week and she said, I don't know but the sell out as soon as we get them. My family alone would have probably bought 12 baby animal plush if they existed. Lol
I also think a fair shake would have been to go ahead with a Muppets mayhem season 2. Even with Disneys track record of blowing budgets. There's no way they spent any real money on it. Streaming can sustain a more niche ip like the Muppets. And when you have something that the majority of fans and critics really enjoyed. What's the harm in keeping it around?
Surferboy567
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I liked mayhem, I didn’t like muppets now.
Surferboy567
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Sweet sweet oil (in the voice), is quoted almost weekly in my household.
Along with Jack Blaaaack. Travel by map etc.
Walter: When he thought they were alone he said. “Their’s oil under this studio say, I’m gonna tear it to the ground say, Sweet Sweet Oil say.”
Mary: People still talk like that?
Walter: Maybe that’s how he sounded in my head
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Muppet man is such a simple and stupid joke but the execution is flawless and it gets me every time
WeNamedTheDogIndiana
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I mean, I just sing "Right In Front Of Me" on the regular. And "Me Party." And "Man Or Muppet." And "We Built This City." (Kidding, I'm not THAT young."
I think that movie is a treasure, and left in the right hands it could have revitalized the Muppet franchise for decades to come. As it stands, Muppets Haunted Mansion is very good (clock the post history), Muppet Mayhem was solid, and everything else...happened. I do believe, with one more strong addition, that could make an adequate average for the last 10-20 years, but I can't speak for the Muppets' heyday.
Disney had a one-off modern Muppet whisperer. While others have made strong efforts, we need to find another whisperer who will stick around. I don't know who this is or if they exist, but please save us, Muppet Jesus.
erasure fan1
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Yea, muppets now and that mockumentary were a big thumbs down.I liked mayhem, I didn’t like muppets now.
With D23 Brazil on the horizon and everyone expecting a Pavilion...
Gonzo the Redeemer as depicted in "The Muppets: The Great Search!" game.
Surferboy567
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It really is a shame they didn’t capitalize on it more. Muppets are a generational franchise the company doesn’t seem to really care though. I understand that, it’s definitely more niche than something like Star Wars I just wish they would treat them better. They are capable of putting out amazing content if they would just give them the chance.
gorillaball
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Makes sense and I don’t disagree in general. If given the opportunity to do that in forward planning I’d be for it, but I wouldn’t spend extra $$$ to move things when those funds could be better utilized (my opinion) in added capacity.
erasure fan1
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There's a pretty strong correlation with the Muppets and mayhem. Both were made by people who LOVED the Muppets. Segal is a huge fan and Goldberg and Yorks were even bigger Muppet nerds. These guys understood what made the Muppets tick. It is too bad they didn't get Segal back for the second. And we all know what happened to mayhem.
ConVMagic
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I know the Muppets is considered a "niche property" now, but it is entirely the fault of Disney and their mishandling of the IP that made it such, and it frustrates me to no end.
Last week, I was in Hollywood Studios, and I went on Muppetvision. I wondered if maybe I was looking at MV3D with rose-colored glasses, and if kids just aren't interested in the muppets like I was or my parents were. While I was there, I made a point to observe the reactions of the kids there, just out of curiosity. When we were in the preshow room, a lot of the kids looked bored, so I figured that maybe I was right. But when we got into the theater and the show started, everyone (adult and kid) in the theater was laughing. There was a boy about 7/8 next to me, and he was absolutely loving it. When the Sweetums actor came out, he practically jumped out of his seat and said to his dad "He's real! He's a real guy!" A bunch of kid's in the theater were yelling out when you have to find Bean in the theater. When we were leaving, most of the kids I saw were smiling and laughing, along with their parents.
The Muppets is such a unique property, in that the humor appeals to kids and adults. The reason those kids seemed bored during the preshow isn't because the Muppets aren't cool or hip or whatever, it just that they don't know them. If Disney made more things with the Muppets instead of letting the IP rot, then maybe more kids would be into them :/ I was a kid when the 2010's Muppets movies and stuff came out, and I remember so much content being made with them, for all age groups, and seeing all of that disappear for no reason is just so upsetting.
It would be really disappointing if they got rid of MV3D and that whole area. It just makes no sense to get rid of capacity in a park that already has issues with it. I don't care if the Animation Courtyard Monstropolis is smaller, just don't touch my Muppets! I should be excited for Monstropolis since Monsters Inc. is my favorite Pixar film, and I never thought they would build it in 2024, but I just can't make myself excited if it means getting rid of Muppets.
Last week, I was in Hollywood Studios, and I went on Muppetvision. I wondered if maybe I was looking at MV3D with rose-colored glasses, and if kids just aren't interested in the muppets like I was or my parents were. While I was there, I made a point to observe the reactions of the kids there, just out of curiosity. When we were in the preshow room, a lot of the kids looked bored, so I figured that maybe I was right. But when we got into the theater and the show started, everyone (adult and kid) in the theater was laughing. There was a boy about 7/8 next to me, and he was absolutely loving it. When the Sweetums actor came out, he practically jumped out of his seat and said to his dad "He's real! He's a real guy!" A bunch of kid's in the theater were yelling out when you have to find Bean in the theater. When we were leaving, most of the kids I saw were smiling and laughing, along with their parents.
The Muppets is such a unique property, in that the humor appeals to kids and adults. The reason those kids seemed bored during the preshow isn't because the Muppets aren't cool or hip or whatever, it just that they don't know them. If Disney made more things with the Muppets instead of letting the IP rot, then maybe more kids would be into them :/ I was a kid when the 2010's Muppets movies and stuff came out, and I remember so much content being made with them, for all age groups, and seeing all of that disappear for no reason is just so upsetting.
It would be really disappointing if they got rid of MV3D and that whole area. It just makes no sense to get rid of capacity in a park that already has issues with it. I don't care if the Animation Courtyard Monstropolis is smaller, just don't touch my Muppets!
I should be excited for Monstropolis since Monsters Inc. is my favorite Pixar film, and I never thought they would build it in 2024, but I just can't make myself excited if it means getting rid of Muppets.
JD80
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Disney has made many attempts with the Muppets over the years. Decent ones too.
- The Muppets in 2011
- Muppets Most Wanted in 2014
- Muppet Moments in 2015
- The Muppets (TV) in 2015
- Muppets on D+ 2019 (canceled during development)
- Muppets Now in 2020
- Muppets Haunted Mansion in 2021
- Muppets Mayhem in 2023
Muppets aren't just popular with a broader audience.