MagicHappens1971
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At earliest late 2027, early 2028. I don’t see it opening before Christmas 2028That's another thing, when can this thing realistically open? Are they going to hamstring the studios for years?
At earliest late 2027, early 2028. I don’t see it opening before Christmas 2028That's another thing, when can this thing realistically open? Are they going to hamstring the studios for years?
I'm not sure. That's an added labor cost employing all those people working there. They close it down for the work, they are saving in that respect.If it's muppets...I refuse to believe it's not because it's because they have good reason. it's prime real estate in a land locked park for a future expansion.
Again, I don't want Muppets to go but it's something to think about. I also doubt Disney wants to remove another people eater in the time it takes to build Monstropolis. Animation Courtyard also makes a formal Pixar "side" of the park. It becomes even stronger if RnR is rethemed.
6 years from now minimum in my opinion that is 2030.At earliest late 2027, early 2028. I don’t see it opening before Christmas 2028
And I think that timeline is much longer going in AC vs muppets for what it’s worth. Demo’ing backstage stuff is gonna take a lot longer than knocking down stuff in the muppets areaAt earliest late 2027, early 2028. I don’t see it opening before Christmas 2028
put them in iger’s office tooI mean, if they are going to close Muppet Vision 3D, they need to (at least) save the Statler and Waldorf animatronic and randomly move it around to various stage/theater attractions at WDW... one day, you randomly go to Mickey's Philharmagic and there Statler and Waldorf are there heckling the show, then, a few months later, you go to see CBJ and who's there but Statler and Waldorf... I'd suggest adding them to Hall of Presidents, but not sure how well that would go over...
Considering how aggressive they are being with these start times I wouldn't be surprised if prep work started already on Cars, Monsters, and possibly Villains. Just behind the scenes so we don't see them. Oh, and the likelihood I believe is the order I put them in.I could see this being 4-5 years out. I wonder how many builders they are able to employ at a time (how many are in the area). We've seen staging already underway at DAK, and didn't they say prep work had already begun on Villains?
Everything we have heard is they are actually still fighting about where Monsters is going to go, so I can't imagine that has started. I actually think Tropical America will be the first to get under way if I had to guess.Considering how aggressive they are being with these start times I wouldn't be surprised if prep work started already on Cars, Monsters, and possibly Villains. Just behind the scenes so we don't see them. Oh, and the likelihood I believe is the order I put them in.
Honestly i dunno who is going to win. We don’t really know much as we think we do imo.Everything we have heard is they are actually still fighting about where Monsters is going to go, so I can't imagine that has started. I actually think Tropical America will be the first to get under way if I had to guess.
Honestly i dunno who is going to win. We don’t really know much as we think we do imo.
We "win" with AC. No doubt.Unless one of the ideas is a different from what has been released and is actually Monsters being build on backstage land, there is no "winning", only us the guests losing as they waste more money repurposing without expanding.
Disney Legend Josh Gad...
Yes, but that is an entirely different thread. I suggested Disney Icon for the run of the mill people.Wait a minute, Josh Gad is a Disney Legend? Honestly, do they just hand out that status like bus drivers hand out Mickey stickers?
I think the goal is something around 1700
People keep saying this is a loss of capacity if we loose MV3D for the door coaster... but theres a few ways to look at it.
Theoretical Capacity:
MV3D is a 17 min show with a 584 person theater.
Theoretical capacity ~1,752 people per hour
Door Coaster:
Actual Capacity: MV3D probably plays to half-filled shows on average: ~876 people per hour
Finally how many people does it "soak up" off the street
MV3D is probably around 600 people (halfish filled theater, and halfish waiting to get in)
For Door coaster:
If we assume 20 person trains and 4 trains of people on the tracks = 80 people on ride
1/2 capacity to a LL with a 5 min line = ~70 people in the LL
1/2 capacity with a 60 min line = 850 people in the standby line
Total= ~1,000 out of the rest of the park, 400 more than Muppets if it has a 60 min line.
BingoI don't think it will decrease capacity; I think it will draw more people to the park and end up making all the lines longer because it won't add enough capacity to make up the difference. The park doesn't have enough capacity as it is right now, so inducing additional demand while only slightly increasing capacity isn't helpful.
If you really want to stretch it Harry’s will add capacity as well. As well as the actual land real estate.People keep saying this is a loss of capacity if we loose MV3D for the door coaster... but theres a few ways to look at it.
Theoretical Capacity:
MV3D is a 17 min show with a 584 person theater.
Theoretical capacity ~1,752 people per hour
Door Coaster:
Actual Capacity: MV3D probably plays to half-filled shows on average: ~876 people per hour
Finally how many people does it "soak up" off the street
MV3D is probably around 600 people (halfish filled theater, and halfish waiting to get in)
For Door coaster:
If we assume 20 person trains and 4 trains of people on the tracks = 80 people on ride
1/2 capacity to a LL with a 5 min line = ~70 people in the LL
1/2 capacity with a 60 min line = 850 people in the standby line
Total= ~1,000 out of the rest of the park, 400 more than Muppets if it has a 60 min line.
If you really want to stretch it Harry’s will add capacity as well. As well as the actual land real estate.
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