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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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This is the BIG LIE. This is not an expansion, this is as been said here is a "re theme" of existing theme park space.
If they worked on land that was never used before, THAT is an expansion.

Yes, folks will argue the new attractions (if they are working) may absorb more guests and thereby be an increase in park capacity.

I guess we will find out in 6 to 8 years....

Can you imagine what LL costs 8 years from now, LOL, LOL
 
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Grantwil93

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If they did remove star tours, I'd be incredibly sad. But I'd immediately start campaigning for Wonders of Life to become the new Star Tours and some OT/PT meet n greets. Not that it fits epcot, but epcot is already a mess so sticking star tours between guardians and mission space kinda works to me.

.1% chance that happens, but they seemingly don't know what to do with the building anyway and moving an attraction into a space that had the same attraction in it(body wars) would probably be cheaper than revamping that pavilion from scratch. It's just festival storage atm.
 
Purduevian

Purduevian

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People keep saying this is a loss of capacity if we loose MV3D for the door coaster... but theres a few ways to look at it.

Theoretical Capacity:
MV3D is a 17 min show with a 584 person theater.
Theoretical capacity ~1,752 people per hour

Door Coaster:
wdwmagic said:
I think the goal is something around 1700
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Actual Capacity: MV3D probably plays to half-filled shows on average: ~876 people per hour

Finally how many people does it "soak up" off the street
MV3D is probably around 600 people (halfish filled theater, and halfish waiting to get in)
For Door coaster:
If we assume 20 person trains and 4 trains of people on the tracks = 80 people on ride
1/2 capacity to a LL with a 5 min line = ~70 people in the LL
1/2 capacity with a 60 min line = 850 people in the standby line
Total= ~1,000 out of the rest of the park, 400 more than Muppets if it has a 60 min line.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Purduevian said:
People keep saying this is a loss of capacity if we loose MV3D for the door coaster... but theres a few ways to look at it.

Theoretical Capacity:
MV3D is a 17 min show with a 584 person theater.
Theoretical capacity ~1,752 people per hour

Door Coaster:


Actual Capacity: MV3D probably plays to half-filled shows on average: ~876 people per hour

Finally how many people does it "soak up" off the street
MV3D is probably around 600 people (halfish filled theater, and halfish waiting to get in)
For Door coaster:
If we assume 20 person trains and 4 trains of people on the tracks = 80 people on ride
1/2 capacity to a LL with a 5 min line = ~70 people in the LL
1/2 capacity with a 60 min line = 850 people in the standby line
Total= ~1,000 out of the rest of the park, 400 more than Muppets if it has a 60 min line.
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I don't think it will decrease capacity; I think it will draw more people to the park and end up making all the lines longer because it won't add enough capacity to make up the difference. The park doesn't have enough capacity as it is right now, so inducing additional demand while only slightly increasing capacity isn't helpful.
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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Purduevian said:
People keep saying this is a loss of capacity if we loose MV3D for the door coaster... but theres a few ways to look at it.

Theoretical Capacity:
MV3D is a 17 min show with a 584 person theater.
Theoretical capacity ~1,752 people per hour

Door Coaster:


Actual Capacity: MV3D probably plays to half-filled shows on average: ~876 people per hour

Finally how many people does it "soak up" off the street
MV3D is probably around 600 people (halfish filled theater, and halfish waiting to get in)
For Door coaster:
If we assume 20 person trains and 4 trains of people on the tracks = 80 people on ride
1/2 capacity to a LL with a 5 min line = ~70 people in the LL
1/2 capacity with a 60 min line = 850 people in the standby line
Total= ~1,000 out of the rest of the park, 400 more than Muppets if it has a 60 min line.
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If you really want to stretch it Harry’s will add capacity as well. As well as the actual land real estate.
 
DCLcruiser

DCLcruiser

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UNCgolf said:
I don't think it will decrease capacity; I think it will draw more people to the park and end up making all the lines longer because it won't add enough capacity to make up the difference. The park doesn't have enough capacity as it is right now, so inducing additional demand while only slightly increasing capacity isn't helpful.
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Isn't there a limit on tickets per day? Plus, moving people to Monster would reduce the line for TSMWM. Which I'd argue is the most fun ride at DHS.
 
Purduevian

Purduevian

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UNCgolf said:
I don't think it will decrease capacity; I think it will draw more people to the park and end up making all the lines longer because it won't add enough capacity to make up the difference. The park doesn't have enough capacity as it is right now, so inducing additional demand while only slightly increasing capacity isn't helpful.
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I personally don't think it will add 3.6 million more guests to DHS in a year, but I could be wrong. (1700-876)*12hour days*365 days a year
 
LSLS

LSLS

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DCLcruiser said:
Isn't there a limit on tickets per day? Plus, moving people to Monster would reduce the line for TSMWM. Which I'd argue is the most fun ride at DHS.
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HA, if there is a limit, they are nowhere near it. BUT, your lines would only reduce if A.) it doesn't increase attendance significantly (and I know the numbers were run, but lets also be real, there will be a lot more down time with a coaster and things never run at max capacity, so I'd bet it's only about 4k per day extra it could handle assuming Muppets averages half full) and B.) They don't throw on a Virtual Que, which will take those extra people and simply leave them out wandering the parks and in other lines.
 
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fgmnt

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LSLS said:
Everything we have heard is they are actually still fighting about where Monsters is going to go, so I can't imagine that has started. I actually think Tropical America will be the first to get under way if I had to guess.
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I think if they knew where it was going and what existing attractions it was affecting, you would have found out two days ago. If you do not hear about it by Friday, then it's definitely still not decided. Would be wild to pass up the two news dump opportunities like that if you already had the news in hand.

There are probably 4 paths to chart forward and only 1 of them really stinks. Hope we get one of the others.
 
Phicinfan

Phicinfan

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wdwmagic said:
There are quite a few reasons that Muppets Courtyard is attractive to Disney for Monsters.

1. The area currently brings in no revenue from Lighting Lane Single, and is not likely a factor for purchases of LL Multi.
2. The area brings in next to no revenue from merchandise sales.
3. Existing restaurant infrastructure reduces costs for new restaurant.
4. The backstage area requires very little change to accommodate the coaster.
5. There are other future plans for Animation Courtyard.
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I don't disagree with all you have here, but to me the park becomes even more hodgepodge with Pixar groups on opposite sides of the park.

Monsters Inc in Animation with Cars near RnRC and Toy Story land on other side could lead to a future overall expansion for more Pixar properties and it all flows well.

I also don't see them wanting to completely cut off more space for expansion for SWL, by taking Muppets now for Monsters, you eliminate any more Star Wars expansion outside the 2 or 3 interior plots they have.

Last but no least - I think the reason you don't have more on where and when, because this was totally a last minute decision to add, IMO(I am no insider....). I think they KNEW where Villains and Cars were going, what backlash that would have and pushed this forward to gain more support. I honestly would not be shocked at all if they don't have a site for it locked yet.
 

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