Marvel Studios’ Thunderbolts*

[vikescaper]

Can we please keep this discussion on Thunderbolts*?

 

[Disney Irish]

You’re never ready to write an obit on any movie, but then complain people are “beating a dead horse” once the flop numbers are obvious to all and encourage them to move on.

Hmm, I recall I wrote the obit on Mufasa after it opened soft and then ended up wrong because it legged it out. So yeah I determined then that I wasn’t going to write another obit on a movie until it’s surely dead, and certainly not 3 weeks ahead of time. So yeah you don't write an obit on something that isn't dead yet, let alone a movie not even released yet. So this preemptive writing of obits before there is even a body to bury is just strange to me. Its something that never happened around here up until recently, we used to at least wait until it was clear it wasn't going to make it before calling it.

Also in reference to beating a dead horse, when a poster is just posting empty theater stats over and over and over 10 days after opening, that isn't someone who really wants to have a productive discussion about the box office. That is someone just wanting to beat a dead horse for the lolz, ie trolling just to gloat. And so why shouldn't we encourage them to move on so we can get back to talking about the actual box office.

So back on Thunderbolts, if some of you think its going to flop, cool. But lets not write the actual obit before the patient is even sick, ie the movie is actually released to theaters and flops.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

I'm still hoping for a Zemo appearance. Even if it's just him alone in a tag scene dancing. lol

Or, even more likely - looking like he's dancing alone until the camera pans over to Valentina getting her groove on, too!

 

[BrianLo]

You’re never ready to write an obit on any movie, but then complain people are “beating a dead horse” once the flop numbers are obvious to all and encourage them to move on.

Both are the same phenomenon, though. Are they not? Trying to prematurely write 100 obituaries or grave dancing and writing 100 obituaries. It’s easy to gloat if you have no accountability.

The only time most people disappear is when the films do quite well. It’s those that were ghosts for the better part of last year that lose their credibility on why they are here. To grave dance.

You aren’t distracting from the push I’m witnessing to write an obit on something we don’t even have released yet. Nuance again is lost, but there is a distinction between negative predictions and telling everyone to move on from a film we have zero clue on its quality.

 

[Agent H]

Yeah, you figure Zemo and Loki would have been in it. They must have said "No thank you."

Loki couldn’t be in it because he’s in the multiverse tree.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yeah, you figure Zemo and Loki would have been in it. They must have said "No thank you."

MCU Zemo would have nothing to do with the Thunderbolts. He would try to murder most of them.

 

[Tha Realest]

MCU Zemo would have nothing to do with the Thunderbolts. He would try to murder most of them.

But he dances! And he’s fun!

Inserting Zemo in the film for that reason really means the Meme Movie is upon us.

 

[DKampy]

It seems projections are still rising.. . I saw the bottom range moved up to 80…. Although the ceiling seems to still be 90

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

It seems projections are still rising.. . I saw the bottom range moved up to 80…. Although the ceiling seems to still be 90

Don’t count out the possibility that this film opens above $100M, even if there’s a small chance it happens.

 

[vikescaper]

Don’t count out the possibility that this film opens above $100M, even if there’s a small chance it happens.

I think this week will be key as there are fan screenings in several cities on Tuesday. Also, the social media embargo lifts on Tuesday as well.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

I think this week will be key as there are fan screenings in several cities on Tuesday. Also, the social media embargo lifts on Tuesday as well.

I mean having social media reactions out this early is a promising sign for this movie, IMO.

 

[vikescaper]

I absolutely love the marketing campaign for the movie! Question though, would Red Guardians be able to drive you from MCO to WDW or can he only do from MCO to Universal????

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

I absolutely love the marketing campaign for the movie! Question though, would Red Guardians be able to drive you from MCO to WDW or can he only do from MCO to Universal????

OMG that's brilliant!

 

[vikescaper]

I don’t care what critics say about other movies. At this point, I am concerned what they will say about Thunderbolts* but I will ultimately make my own decision if I like it or not.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

the critics aren't perfect, but they are usually right more often than wrong IMO. My personal MCU rankings match up pretty well with the RT scores

 

[vikescaper]

Reactions are looking good so far!

 

[vikescaper]

Here’s a more negative reaction to the movie:

 

[Phroobar]

Here’s a more negative reaction to the movie:

So not good.

 

[DKampy]

So not good.

So one opinion determines the quality of the movie…. Too bad we have not ever had a great movie in the history of film

 

[vikescaper]

So not good.

The majority of the reactions have been positive. These are from both fans and critics.