Marvel in Hollywood Studios?

PeterAlt

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I got an idea! Disney could trade the worldwide theme park rights of Jar Jar Binks with Comcast-Universal in exchange for their east coast Marvel theme park rights of selected characters. Disney can trade Jar Jar. He's not needed.
 

Magenta Panther

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They could make a lot of money off it. How many Marvel fans would want to stay at a Marvel hotel while on vacation? Universal doesn't offer that experience. It's a way for Disney to make lots of money from Marvel at WDW without breaking their contract.

Also, since when has Disney cared about offering a better experience than something Universal does? One could argue that Disney hasn't matched anything Universal's done in a long time. Disney always makes decisions that are profitable ones regardless if it's as good as another place or not.

We can't even assume that Disney's experience would be a lesser experience. For some people, it could be a better one. It's up to the individual. Regardless, it would allow Disney to make money from Marvel at IoA and WDW. It's a win-win for them.

My thoughts: I don't think too highly of Marvel Superhero Island and I'm a Universal passholder. I like Spider-man, that's about it. The land's not a pleasure look at and it's often overcrowded.


How many times do people here have to point out that, contractually, Disney canNOT build anything Marvel-related at WDW???? And thank god for that! That'll be one Disney park not infested with crap like the Incredible Hulk. Guess you'll just have to settle for IoA in the meantime...
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
How many times do people here have to point out that, contractually, Disney canNOT build anything Marvel-related at WDW???? And thank god for that! That'll be one Disney park not infested with crap like the Incredible Hulk. Guess you'll just have to settle for IoA in the meantime...

Not true, Disney cannot build anything Marvel related in a theme park in WDW. Whether they could build an Marvel hotel or do M&G's at downtown Disney, is a much more grey area.
 

Californian Elitist

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How many times do people here have to point out that, contractually, Disney canNOT build anything Marvel-related at WDW???? And thank god for that! That'll be one Disney park not infested with crap like the Incredible Hulk. Guess you'll just have to settle for IoA in the meantime...

Although I agree with you in that I'm sick of all the posts about ways WDW could get away with having Marvel in the parks when it's clearly not going to happen, I'd have to disagree with you when you say the Hulk is crap. The Hulk is awesome.

BTW, Disney has already proved they can create great attractions that aren't based on their own content. That ship sailed a long time ago.
 

jt04

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Question: Since Disney bought Marvel, does the liscense only allow Universal the current walk around characters? For example, they can have spider man, etc. but do the others belong to Disney?

This is absolutely my understanding. And it makes Uni fans crazy to contemplate the implications.
 

Goofyernmost

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I have an idea...unless you are using a mouse with a mind of it's own, simply do not click on it and for you it will disappear. Personally, I have no interest in Marvel at all, but, I do find the conversation informative, but, when I tire of it, I will just go to another thread. You folks sound like Disney Management. They also, do not want to add anything without dismantling something that is already there.
 

bubbles1812

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This is absolutely my understanding. And it makes Uni fans crazy to contemplate the implications.
Oh for the love of God. As has been discussed ad nauseum, they don't just have license to the walk around characters. They have the license to the different families that said characters belong in. It's there in the contract, spelled out in plain English, for all to see. If Iron Man weren't in their parks, Disney still can't use that character, because he is part of the Avengers, whose others members are represented in the parks. Yes, Marvel has an impressive backlog of characters but the most popular ones... Uni has, and has until forever.

JT I know you just like to antagonize and troll but then there is just stuff that you post which is just plain stupid, as people can disprove you in a second. I'm not sure why you enjoy being laughed at, but this was definitely one of those posts. I'm sure you'll have an even dumber retort that can again be disproved as again, the actual contract is out and available in plain English for all to see. But keep with the delusions...it's what you are good at.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think the contracts point to an intention that Islands of Adventure be the only Marvel themed experience in the Orlando area. I guess a Value hotel could still be an option since the Value hotels at Walt Disney World are not themed.
 

jt04

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Oh for the love of God. As has been discussed ad nauseum, they don't just have license to the walk around characters. They have the license to the different families that said characters belong in. It's there in the contract, spelled out in plain English, for all to see. If Iron Man weren't in their parks, Disney still can't use that character, because he is part of the Avengers, whose others members are represented in the parks. Yes, Marvel has an impressive backlog of characters but the most popular ones... Uni has, and has until forever.

JT I know you just like to antagonize and troll but then there is just stuff that you post which is just plain stupid, as people can disprove you in a second. I'm not sure why you enjoy being laughed at, but this was definitely one of those posts. I'm sure you'll have an even dumber retort that can again be disproved as again, the actual contract is out and available in plain English for all to see. But keep with the delusions...it's what you are good at.

I didn't know you were a uni fan.

Anyway, the first I read that Disney can use Marvel characters not licensed for IoA was an article in the Sentinel. I have never seen Uni or Disney refute it. So while ant man might be seen at WDW, the character likely will not be featured at Universal.

It isn't really about what we perceive as compelling Marvel characters. It is really now about the characters that have yet to be imagined and future generations. Someday your grand children will be telling you the Avengers are lame because they will have new characters from Marvel. And Universal will not have the rights to those franchises.

That is all I am saying.
 

CDavid

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Not true, Disney cannot build anything Marvel related in a theme park in WDW. Whether they could build an Marvel hotel or do M&G's at downtown Disney, is a much more grey area.

Well, technically, Disney can build anything Marvel it wants in any of its Orlando parks provided that the character(s), or the "families" of those characters, used by Disney are not already used in a more than incidental manner by Universal.

Disney could try and establish a precedent to see just how much it can get away with in regard to meet & greets or hotels or restaurants outside the parks too, but why would they want to give essentially free advertising for the competitors park up the street? I can't think of a more effective way to get more WDW resort guests to head up I-4 than that.

The only semi-practical way I can imagine WDW ever getting (limited) Marvel rights (and lets be clear - its not going to happen - purely an academic discussion) is to make a deal with Universal. As others noted previously in this thread, buying Universal out would be hilariously expensive, so that's out of the question. But, if you could get Universal to sign off on it, maybe you could get an agreement to use some obscure "family" characters which aren't closely connected to the Avengers or other heroes represented at IOA. But again - why, why, why would you want to spend millions building an attraction around a largely unknown superhero which is naturally and obviously going to invite quite unfavorable (if not mocking) comparisons with the well-known characters in Universal's camp.

This is indeed a rather pointless discussion. Nothing wrong with talking about it for those who want to, I suppose, just no point to it. We may as well discuss bringing back Timekeeper to the MK - this time with real time travel.
 

bubbles1812

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I didn't know you were a uni fan.

Anyway, the first I read that Disney can use Marvel characters not licensed for IoA was an article in the Sentinel. I have never seen Uni or Disney refute it. So while ant man might be seen at WDW, the character likely will not be featured at Universal.

It isn't really about what we perceive as compelling Marvel characters. It is really now about the characters that have yet to be imagined and future generations. Someday your grand children will be telling you the Avengers are lame because they will have new characters from Marvel. And Universal will not have the rights to those franchises.

That is all I am saying.
Ant man is an Avenger. One the the original to be exact. Avengers characters are featured in the Universal parks. Therefore, WDW cannot feature ant man in its parks as ant man is part of the avengers family of characters, which Universal has the rights to. It's not rocket science man. You are going to take the Sentinal's word over you know the actually legally binding contract that can be read easily on line? And you wonder why your credibility is shot.

You make a point that Disney will have rights to new Marvel characters though Universal could easily make the case that if said new characters become Avengers for example, Disney will no longer be able to have them in the parks as they are now part of that character family.

Also, 60+ years of the same characters being popular that have always been popular would seem to suggest your hypothetical theory that the characters popular now wont be popular years from now is false. Batman (yes I know that isn't Marvel) hasn't exactly gone out of style. Nor has Spider-man and the other ultra popular Marvel characters.
 

Sam Magic

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Disney can use Marvel characters that Universal has not used in their theme parks, so.................... We could see Iron Man, Captain America, Gardians of The Galaxy, and Thor at WDW. Also if Uni fails to keep their Marvel Rides in good condition Disney get the rights.
 

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