Major 2015 Pirates of the Caribbean Refurbishment Watch/Rumor.

KordovaJD

Well-Known Member
May have been said here, but when I checked in last week the front desk CM at the Poly said it would be going down for refurb on June 8 according to her system. I had asked because I had previously hear it would go down this past Monday, during my trip.
 

Monoblanco13

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What does the new Soarin' film, not expected to debut until after Shanghai Disneyland opens, have to do with Pirates of the Caribbean being allowed to rot?

Forgot we were on the Pirates thread lol. So whats the news? Things working today? Any more or less optimism today regarding the scheduled downtime coming up?
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
You all are going to accuse me of being a pixie duster but all I hear is doom and gloom.

Re: Soarin', they just completed filming their new movie and it's in production. Are they not supposed to be forward thinking abut one of their most popular attractions? Let me tell you what I see. Let's say they developed Odyssey or whatever. You would accuse them of letting Soarin' languish.

But maybe I am entitled to little pixie dust since I'm there. Or am I supposed to wallow in misery and be Grumpy about everything?
You are allowed to be excited by Soarin, and other new additions... You should be because they've been so few and far between lately.

I've concluded this week that Epcot is the worst of the four parks right now.

As a side note, my phone wanted to autocorrect "four" to "McKim" apparently it misses the old Test Track.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
No it wouldn't. Find me a complaint about the Jungle Cruise from this week. I've seen universal praise. It was a job well-done.
This one time... on the Jungle Cruise, they screwed up and the water that was on the front side managed to move itself to the backside just before we passed by it. Bad show. I headed straight to Guest Services and gave them a heavy duty piece of my mind, I'll tell you! Image trying to pass the front side of water off as the backside. Busted Disney.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Right, and regular maintenance (not tri-annual) keeps it from causing much of an impact.

Also, the key is TREATED...and by that, I don't mean potable.
Let me ask you this and I ask not to be clever, but, just out of curiosity. The water coming into your house is treated, bacteria allegedly killed off, etc. Yet, you probably have had to deal with some mold or mildew in at at least your bathroom. Why is that? It certainly isn't the volume of water that is in a PoTC situation. Moisture is also airborne from outside sources that unless hermetically sealed will get in. I think it's a safe bet that Pirates is not hermetically sealed.

Let me be careful to point out, that I am not disagreeing with you that more general upkeep is required on a regular basis, but, also to express that I feel that, over time, nature will catch up and exceed the ability to completely keep up with the best of efforts. Mold spors are airborne also they don't just go away without significant chemical exposure that would also expose passengers on the ride. It's not a simple answer like everyone seems to think is should be.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
No, what decent companies do that operate mechanical operations that wear over time is to keep sufficient spare parts on hand for those components known to wear. Known wear is an easily calculated function. Those components are replaced before they reach the point of not being able to fulfil their proscribed function. It appears that Disney is no longer following this type of protocol.
In a place the size of Disney can anyone pull themselves into reality long enough to picture the quantity of different parts that would require. Massive amounts of parts, thousands for each piece of machinery. The warehouse alone would be the size of the remaining property of Disney in Orlando. Another question, just how often do you want your major attractions to be closed down to replace parts that aren't broken? It's going to take the same amount of down time to replace a good part as a broken one.

I would also like to place a large wager on the fact that those "calculated" wear items are indeed stocked otherwise many of those breakdowns would not be in operation the next day.

All I'm asking when you guys try and justify millions of dollars worth of useless expense to think with your heads and not your hearts. Not all, but, some of you appear to have never maintained or repaired anything of a mechanical nature otherwise you would be able to understand that. Someone is about to point out replacing safety related parts ahead of time. OK, Absolutely, but there is a huge difference between that and general mechanical items. They are not operating space shuttles here, it's a theme park.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Let me ask you this and I ask not to be clever, but, just out of curiosity. The water coming into your house is treated, bacteria allegedly killed off, etc. Yet, you probably have had to deal with some mold or mildew in at at least your bathroom. Why is that? It certainly isn't the volume of water that is in a PoTC situation. Moisture is also airborne from outside sources that unless hermetically sealed will get in. I think it's a safe bet that Pirates is not hermetically sealed.

Let me be careful to point out, that I am not disagreeing with you that more general upkeep is required on a regular basis, but, also to express that I feel that, over time, nature will catch up and exceed the ability to completely keep up with the best of efforts. Mold spors are airborne also they don't just go away without significant chemical exposure that would also expose passengers on the ride. It's not a simple answer like everyone seems to think is should be.
You are absolutely correct. And, there is mold at Typhoon.

See my video at 2:28.



But, like your bathroom, regular scrubbing helps that.

And, my point, is that a large part of the ride could be, and it is just my unknowledged opinion, regularly maintained on cycles, unless you had to drain the whole thing (for water scrubbing), which would still need to happen every few years. The question is, why would an AA on dry land be allowed to not work until then? Also, one can scrub and flush even in standard water.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Doodlebug-...8&qid=1431864723&sr=8-3&keywords=3m+doodlebug
 
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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
All I'm asking when you guys try and justify millions of dollars worth of useless expense to think with your heads and not your hearts.
Horizons had a complete Omnimax projector on permement hire in storage in the projection room in case one of the other two broke and couldnt be fixed easily.

Not to mention the attraction would shut down if one wasn't operating.

That's what standards used to mean.

Today we have life expired parts in Living with the Land. Not almost expired. Broken.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
You are absolutely correct. And, there is mold at Typhoon.

See my video at 2:28.



But, like your bathroom, regular scrubbing helps that.

And, my point, is that a large part of the ride could be, and it is just my unknowledged opinion, regularly maintained on cycles, unless you had to drain the whole thing (for water scrubbing), which would still need to happen every few years. The question is, why would an AA on dry land be allowed to not work until then? Also, one can scrub and flush even in standard water.

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Doodlebug-...8&qid=1431864723&sr=8-3&keywords=3m+doodlebug

Absolutely agree. They really just need to ignore the uproar that is created by a closed attraction. I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being truthful. They should, but, the chances of that happening are slim to none.
 

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