I'm not familiar with Disney fans who haven't seen Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and don't at least appreciate its artistry or its significance, but this forum is filled with people who only started liking Disney once it became a corporation that needs to be defended at all costs (I guess around 2011-2013).
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It also has its fair share of people who don’t care for Disney at all.
That’s a rather tendentious framing. Would you describe Maleficent and Cruella in the same way?
I in no way think it will be a masterpiece, but it's possible it won't be the trainwreck we all have feared.People think this movie is going to be a masterpiece because of Greta Gerwig when she only had limited involvement:
Greta Gerwig Had Limited Involvement in Disney's Live-Action Snow White Movie
If you're planning on seeing Disney's live-action Snow White in 2025, it sounds like you shouldn't expect Greta Gerwig's signature touch — or a preview of what to expect from her future Narnia adaptations at
At most I'd say they don't understand the original characters but they are so divorced from them that I actually don't consider them remakes. Maleficent is basically a Frozen remake and Cruella just feels like a fanfic about the character, but neither felt like they had contempt for the originals and it feels like the only people who look forward to this film are people who don't like or don't care about the original, probably in order to defend Rachel Zegler's comments about it (I personally don't care, she's allowed to voice her opinions), but everything you hear about it, including plot details which I won't share because of spoilers, including some songs they are keeping and some they are dropping for being "offensive", I just gotta ask who's the target audience for it. If this story is so problematic why remake it in the first place only to change everything about it until it is unrecognizable but you still call it "Snow White" and you still call it a live action remake.
Even the original is not the "original" as Disney took liberties with the story from the Grimm fairytale. This version is just another re-imagining of that same story, its no different than any of the other many retellings of the Snow story by MANY others.
I'm a huge fan of the original film, and I certainly wouldn't be interested in seeing this new version if I detected any contempt for it. Am I confident it's going to be any good? Truthfully, no, but that's less because it may stray from the source material than because I have found most of the remakes to be redundant (The Lion King being the worst offender). I would actually prefer something that, like Maleficent and Cruella, takes a very different approach relative to the original film. At least that would give it an original purpose.
Disney seems to have created 3 types of remakes…
My concern is that Snow White has been changed from the second category to the third (after those admittedly bad production pictures were leaked). Even if the first is the more lucrative approach, it's not one I myself favour.
I think SW has been firmly in the third category since it was conceived, Mufasa seems like a second category film though and I can’t wait to see what they come with for that one.
It didn’t seem that way when the dwarfs were (apparently) out of the picture. I suppose time will tell what sort of remake/reboot we’re getting!
I don't think Disney hates you. I think a very small powerful group of creatives (and a handful of executives who hired them) working for Disney hate you. And I have felt that way since 2017-ish. It was evident before then, but I only came to that conclusion around 2017.
Let's discuss things I said, not things you wish I had said.
What makes the framing especially weird is that the biggest shift in Disney storytelling relative to these talking points surely came during the Renaissance, which is when we saw the emergence of strong female leads like Belle and Jasmine who loudly questioned the expectations of their patriarchal societies. Most recent Disney films have done little more than build timidly on this Renaissance legacy. Frozen and Moana went a bit further, but both preceded by a few years—and therefore escaped—the kind of ideological ire that is now so predictable. I’m convinced that Frozen would be accused of all sorts of things if it came out today.
Why do you think that group hates me?
You said Disney hates people with traditional family values. I naturally took that to mean that, in your view, they no longer make films that promote family values. Since I appear to have misunderstood you, could you please clarify what you were saying?
Social ideology.
Is their social ideology different from mine?
