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Lights of Winter not being displayed this year (2009)!?!
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gbruenin
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Folks,
The fans on this site got pretty fired up when we learned TDO wasn't planning any sort of 25th celebration. Got people's attention and they changed their mind, and the fans pulled of a rather large gathering as well. So, lets put our minds together...what could we do as a fan group one evening as our own tribute to the Lights of Winter? We'll be there Nov 27th to the 30th. Perhaps handing out as many glow sticks as I can get through the gate at the former LoW location.
Gary
The fans on this site got pretty fired up when we learned TDO wasn't planning any sort of 25th celebration. Got people's attention and they changed their mind, and the fans pulled of a rather large gathering as well. So, lets put our minds together...what could we do as a fan group one evening as our own tribute to the Lights of Winter? We'll be there Nov 27th to the 30th. Perhaps handing out as many glow sticks as I can get through the gate at the former LoW location.
Gary
I think the technology is too obsolete.
WDW Vacationer
Active Member
We should organize a "March on TDO".:lookaroun
s8film40
Well-Known Member
If I can manage to get a hold of a button maker I'll make as many buttons as I can. If anyone knows where I can get one that's not too expensive let me know.
hack2112
Active Member
But marches are SO obsolete.
We should do an e-march! Someone, quick, make a model of the TDO building for us to march around in Half Life 2!
Well we could...
Hand out as many "Bring Back LOW" pins and magnets as we can buy. (Their great design is a way of educating the casual guests on what is missing this year.)
Organizing various "Lights" parties throughout the season. Get a group of 20 people or so to gather on the walkway with their lights and make a human archway. Preferably arrange this for that open press day or when press are there. Get a photo op going with a news piece. That will get the attention of casual visitors and hopefully generate some bad PR. Shame TDO into correcting the situation for next year.
Someone ship a box of those pins to TDO with a collection of letters from guests who are hurt by this change.
For me, I'll be taking my entire family to Disney the weekend of the 5th. That's 17 people, 15 of them never having been to Disney before. 10 of them were debating buying park passes for Saturday so they could go into EPCOT and see their holiday offerings. The CP is not drawing them in. Now it seems those 10 people will just skip a Disney park altogether that day. Some are already planning Seaworld instead.
But he's VP of EPCOT? You think he just nodded and said "Yes ma'am" to Crofton and Wallace?
If he wasn't ok with this, getting a few upset letters from guests may be just the amunition he needs to challenge his bosses then. He can do a "See, I told ya they'd miss them".
EpcotServo
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WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I strongly disagree. And ultimately who was behind the subprime mortgages? The banks and Wall Street, first and foremost. And then both Clinton and (especially) W, who relaxed and removed regulation and control. Subprime mortages allowed W to prop up a phony economy in the post-9/11 period.
Want to know what happens when Wall Street has no controls?
We came very close to the abyss ... and yet, we still let the foxes guard the henhouse and wonder why the behaviors don't change.
No. It isn't.
That's a fallacy that is pushed by those on the far right and the wealthy and spewed forth by talking heads on FOX, CNBC and CNN.
What made this country great was DEMOCRACY.
And despite what some would have us believe, capitalism and democracy are not the same thing at all. One might argue they can be diametrically opposed. And our Founding Fathers never said we were to have a capitalist system.
The Constitution. That's what made our country great (even if the Patriot Act reudces it to some sidelight that can be adhered to when convenient, so that we can get the 'evildoers' ... as to who gets to determine who they are ...well, trust your government right? )
Don't get me wrong. I do believe in capitalism. I just don't advocate the bastardization that has happened in the US in my lifetime.
Ultimately, it has harmed our nation and all its citizens.
And on a level in this discussion, it is why Disney operates the way it does. It can't largely run the way it did in good, old days because the Beast that is the Street needs to be fed constantly bigger, better numbers.
A fair profit is never enough. MORE! MORE! MORE! greed is good ... well, no it isn't.
It's turning us into a third world nation with nukes and delusions of grandeur.
No. I don't put much faith in the government.
But what is the alternative? Putting faith in Big Business and the Insurance lobby? I'll take the government.
People need healthcare. It is a basic of life and should be available to all, even if they are pennyless. Some folks just don't believe that. They think it is a privilege and you either afford it or you don't get it. I don't respect those people or that viewpoint because clearly it says to me they don't respect life and the responsibility to care for those who are the poorest and weakest.
And for those who say they don't want their money going to pay for insurance for others, all I can say is I don't want my money going for so many things (Iraq would be one) and I don't get a say in that.
How we can spend what we do daily around the globe, while Americans die here because they can't afford/get access to healthcare is an atrocity. No way to sugarcoat it.
I have family members who can't even get insurance due to 'pre-existing' conditions. That's just patently absurd. It's heartless and it's anti-American.
But it is 100% pure capitalism.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Go hang up your Christmas lights.:xmas::xmas::xmas:
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by WDW1974
But, hey, I'm really looking forward to that new choir .... how about you?
:xmas::wave:
I'm greatly looking forward to it.
I figure after a drink or two that choir will sound heavenly!:xmas:
Originally Posted by WDW1974
But, hey, I'm really looking forward to that new choir .... how about you?
:xmas::wave:I don't know. But I'm planning on standing smack dab in front of them, with you, while we enjoy an adult beverage.
I'm greatly looking forward to it.
I figure after a drink or two that choir will sound heavenly!:xmas:
No, don't think I will. You want to have a debate with someone that's completely outside the topic of discussion, feel free to do so. But no one needs to use these forums simply to espouse their politcal views. Keep it to personal messages and away from the topic at hand...
krankenstein
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So, LoW..... :lookaroun
I've been tweeting, you?
I've been tweeting, you?
So, LoW..... :lookaroun
I've been tweeting, you?
You know, I'm embarrassed to say it, but I don't have a Twitter account. Never saw the need between texting, this site, Facebook, DCot, and my email accounts. I have sent an email though, to Disney, and have a letter to go out this weekend. Plus, I'm there next week and plan on (politely) letting my opinion be known.
WDW Vacationer
Active Member
So, LoW..... :lookaroun
I've been tweeting, you?
I have!
What is your account name?
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
Honestly, I don't use mine unless I'm at WDW normally. However, LoW earned an exception. i have been hounding the DisneyParks Twitter.
I've sent the email, and posted on the Disney blog site about LoW. I'm just afraid the email account (like the Twitter one), is just some generic address that allows people to feel good about venting their anger, but is only checked by some intern once every couple of weeks.....:brick: