I'm not patient enought to split quotes, so I won't. Numbers are cute.
Oh, and the head bang against the brick wall doesn't mean that you are superior. Especially since almost EVERYBODY ON THIS THREAD DISAGREES WITH YOU. But hey, what's the majority know huh?
1. I am by far not a Disney Fan. I'm trying to please all guest but you. Of course that would make me a Disney Hater.
2. Hard tickets prove they can't handle the extra spins. That's why they kick people out. That's why they charge double for the full day. There is too much demand.
3. I don't know what my system is, but DLR hasn't grown in years. They have added 2 new attractions since DCA settled in. Buzz and Monsters. I don't know how that was successful when they only opened 1 attraction for the big 50th. Not to day that DL needs more attractions. DCA Yes. DL no. And that is what they plan on doing. Same thing they should be doing in FLA. Bring up the stragglers. AK/EP/DS Yes. MK no.
4. Walt never was witness to ADA theme parks. And Safety is the #1 philosophy in "his" park operations. How safe is an attraction w/no fire escape? I double dare you to let the subs go. They really weren't ever that good. I haven't even talked about subs until now anyways. I could give a crap about them. So could most guests. That's part of why they don't exist.
5. So you would rather they skip out on the half day parks and hit the competition. MK will get at least 1 visit from 99% of all Central Florida Vacationers that visit a Disney Theme Park. Many skip Epcot/DS/AK now. They DO NOT skip MK. The current numbers prove it. Where WDW management needs to step up is in the parks that are UNDERPERFORMING.
6. If I have 3 kids. One makes A's. One makes A-'s. One makes C's. Do I invest insanely in the two top scholars and let the third fend for itself? Do I trust the stronger students to hold their own with a mild influnce and work hard to get the 3rd up to par? I say we buy the smartest kid a laptop. Let the other two have calculators.
Every argument you have isn't based around making money, business management, or guest satisfaction. It's about you complaining about your "fantasy" MK not being built with "your" special concept rides. Runing WDW isn't so it can be a novelty. It isn't supercool to spend a half billion dollars on something that could get away with 20-30 million in upkeep and casual upgrades.
7. If this isn't the perfect analogy, I don't know what is. Do you buy your car a new engine every time you need an oil change? Very simply. Sure it would be "cool" to have that V8 instead of a V6. It really would. But logical? Not really.
8. But hey, I understand. You aren't looking for logic. You are upset about that sub thing that is almost a decade old now. You and the other 37 people that spit at the Pooh park as they walk past. I'm sure those meetings the 37 of you have just don't give you the satisfaction or the gratification that they should. So boycotting the park for 95% of your visit to WDW theme parks is sending a serious message. And if WDW management isn't getting that as clear as they should by looking at your visitation pattern, they can now look here on this site to see how you feel. Only by replacing the poinless subs with the Bald, Smokey, Fire, Dingle, and Villian Mountians can the true Glory be returned to MK. Plus there must be future plans in place to add the additional mountains every 21.5 months: Narnia Mountian, Syndrome's Volcano, Wall-E's Mountian of Trash, The Mount Rushmore Experience, Uluru, and Flick's Ant Mound. This should have a full enough schedule for the next decade and a half. Why not? It would be "neat" after all. Oh, and I guess I have to add the sarcastic smilie too. Um, how about this one.
The idea of a complete experience for guests visiting WDW parks is a fools dream anyways. Better to make sure we satisfy 75 visitor guy with a chip on his shoulder. That is much more important. And C student offspring. Go ahead and enjoy all that weed you want. And be sure that you are pregnant when you smoke it. And homeless. Wouldn't want those distractions to bother the A student here. Also, don't forget to eat your feces C student offspring of mine. Recycling is important and cost effective.
Am I following the proper tone for interaction now?
Temper, Temper there Jimbo, sounds like you’re going to pop a blood vessel.
IT SEEMS TO ME THERE HAVE BEEN AS MANY ‘FOR’ AS ‘AGAINST’ IN THIS THREAD. You can count if you really need to know…
1. Huh?
2. Wrong, Hard Tickets prove that they can handle the extra spins, because they are in fact extra spins. Demand is not relevant to Hard Tickets as they do not occur on nights of Full Capacity anyway. They are only a way to charge guest a second time and count that guest as an extra visit (It makes the 16,000,000 a bit suspect if you ask me).
3. DL is bringing up the stragglers and expanding DL at the same time (Pirate Island, Nemo Subs and now plans for a new new tomorrowland with an additional E-Ticket), and all I’m saying is MK should do the same. I’ve repeatedly said to add to the stragglers too.
4. What? The subs in DL are working just fine, not a lot of sub fires going on out there, and they opened this year, ADA and all. I am not lobbying for the subs. I’ve specifically lobbied for an E-Ticket to replace the subs (never mentioned my preference). BTW, the subs were not deleted because people didn’t like them.
5. Again you are wrong. I think you haven’t read my posts clearly at all. I’m saying your ‘system’ of stagnating the MK to get people to visit the other 3 is poor business because you are actually encouraging them to visit the competition too. I would rather they stay at WDW because ALL the parks have something new. You should always experience positive growth in all you parks. You want extra attendance at your other parks, give them a new E-Ticket and get the PR going, but they should have a new reason to visit MK too. FYI: ‘too’ means ‘also’ not ‘instead of’ and I’ve been saying the MK should get an E-Ticket too.
I’m not so sure the numbers prove it either. Disney counts the first park entered with that day’s ticket for the park count. Naturally, the MK gets a lot of these first-point-of-entry clicks. If the person goes over to MGM, because MK is too crowded and there aren’t enough rides to handle the crowd (you said it yourself “There’s too much demand”), MGM does not get a ½ point for that entry and MK does not lose a ½ point either. At DCA you can see the empty park and realize its attendance is low, but at Epcot, MGM and AK, the crowds are there quite a bit. I’m not convinced that MGM’s numbers aren’t hurt a bit by the counting system. All that said, I would still agree with you (for the 10th time) that MGM needs help.
6. I’m not saying to give 1 kid a laptop and 2 calculators. You are the one giving the Calculator to the MK (quote: “AK/EP/DS-yes, MK-no”) when they took the 20K laptop away years ago. I’ve repeatedly said they should ALL get an E-Ticket.
7. The car engine analogy is crap. A car only has one engine, MK has 16 rides (according to you) and I want 1 more. If you have a restaurant with 16 seats and you fill up constantly, you add more serving times (Hard Tickets), and more seats via an addition (new E-Ticket).
8. Wow, you should be an imagineer! I love all those mountain ideas…. GET A GRIP! Where talking 1 E-Ticket to replace the one they ripped out. Also, I am not upset about the subs going, I dislike that they did not give us something to replace it… 15 years since the last E-Ticket, you have to admit that’s a bit extreme.
No, I take it back, the 2nd to last paragraph would get you banned from Imagineering I think… Whew.
You sleep well too, there Jumba.