Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[JohnD]

When comments like" opportunity to do more with less " that's reality in the everyday workforce.

Too bad its not the reality in the federal government. That is the very reason Disney and the everyday workforce is looking for "opportunities to do more with less".

 

[Nottamus]

Right on the heels of D23, which will now be known as D17 as 6 announcements have been cut

 

[el_super]

ah ok... so first it was the Florida sun, then Taylor Swift, and now it's the Olympics. Man WDW can't catch a break. I wonder what it'll be next year? Murder hornets? Sharknado risk?

You can't ignore external factors on attendance, no matter how much you want to.

 

[Andrew C]

ah ok... so first it was the Florida sun, then Taylor Swift, and now it's the Olympics. Man WDW can't catch a break. I wonder what it'll be next year? Murder hornets? Sharknado risk?

They will always find something...that is for sure. They are putting out trash, simple as that.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Right on the heels of D23, which will now be known as D17 as 6 announcements have been cut

and the other 17 will look good but never really be like that

 

[HauntedPirate]

Why does there need to be a choice? Disney used to be great at consistently increasing both.

Well. building new things increases demand, and that's a problem. Apparently. According to the only person who knows anything about the parks around here.

 

[GhostHost1000]

You can't ignore external factors on attendance, no matter how much you want to.

external factors like covid maybe... but I don't look for every excuse in the book to blame for the less attendance trends... if they want to know why, they just need to look at some of their decisions made (or not made) in just the last 5 years or so.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Well. building new things increases demand, and that's a problem. Apparently. According to the only person who knows anything about the parks around here.

didn't you hear...they have to do more with less... I expect them to bulldoze attractions any day now to increase profit.

 

[Grimley1968]

didn't you hear...they have to do more with less... I expect them to bulldoze attractions any day now to increase profit.

Don't give them any ideas.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

ah ok... so first it was the Florida sun, then Taylor Swift, and now it's the Olympics. Man WDW can't catch a break. I wonder what it'll be next year? Murder hornets? Sharknado risk?

Tough to know... I'm pretty sure it will be "epic", regardless...

 

[Drdcm]

didn't you hear...they have to do more with less... I expect them to bulldoze attractions any day now to increase profit.

It makes it easier to have choices. Fewer choices means fewer decisions to make. This is what people have been asking for

 

[el_super]

external factors like covid maybe... but I don't look for every excuse in the book to blame for the less attendance trends... if they want to know why, they just need to look at some of their decisions made (or not made) in just the last 5 years or so.

So what's the excuse for Universal's revenue decreasing some 10%? Apparently their business is suffering far more than Disney's. Is their management just more inept?

 

[SplashJacket]

I do find the moral self-patting victory lap on disney to be quite strange by a lot of people here, especially when the competition (and nearly every company of almost every sector) is experiencing the same thing.

The economy was juiced and extremely inflationary and now have been purposely cooled off with unemployment purposely increased to ease inflation.

Did Disney raise prices to unsustainable and extreme heights? Yes, but so did literally every other company, and it’s reached a breaking point for pretty much everyone. I don’t know why we’re pretending to be surprised?

 

[GhostHost1000]

So what's the excuse for Universal's revenue decreasing some 10%? Apparently their business is suffering far more than Disney's. Is their management just more inept?

I don't care about Universal's business personally. They do a lot more than Parks too.... but at least know how and when to build and expand

 

[HauntedPirate]

Taylor Swift
Summer heat
Hurricanes
International travel

Or... maybe Bob's strategy of trying to replace 80% of their core park audience with a minor fraction of that in the form of high-spending whales wasn't a good idea?

 

[el_super]

I don't care about Universal's business personally.

Personally, I don't either. But when you see a 10% decrease in revenue across the street, you can't be thinking the only factors on revenue are internal.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Did Disney raise prices to unsustainable and extreme heights? Yes, but so did literally every other company, and it’s reached a breaking point for pretty much everyone. I don’t know why we’re pretending to be surprised?

raising prices isn't the problem if they continue to offer the same value and quality...but...therein lies some of the biggest complaints by many.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Taylor Swift
Summer heat
Hurricanes
International travel

Or... maybe Bob's strategy of trying to replace 80% of their core park audience with a minor fraction of that in the form of high-spending whales wasn't a good idea?

I know what will fix attendance....

recruit more TikTok vloggers!

 

[WDWhopper]

Genie was rolled out during the pandemic and benefited greatly from the revenge travel phenomenon. Now that revenge travel is basically over and inflation is at historic levels, the average family can no longer afford an expensive vacation. Disney will not lower ticket prices, but they might adjust Genie prices down in an attempt to make guests overall visit cheaper. I would also expect plenty of resort discounts and Florida resident discounts, to try and prop things up through this slow down. In the end, Disney will be just fine.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Genie was rolled out during the pandemic and benefited greatly from the revenge travel phenomenon. Now that revenge travel is basically over and inflation is at historic levels, the average family can no longer afford an expensive vacation. Disney will not lower ticket prices, but they might adjust Genie prices down in an attempt to make guests overall visit cheaper. I would also expect plenty of resort, discounts and Florida resident discounts, to try and prop things up through this slow down. In the end, Disney will be just fine.

I don't see them ever lowering the cost of G+. I could see them offering something within resort packages and/or onsite guests if things get really bad... but it's such a cash cow, they want to keep milking it until the utters fall off