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Is attendance really down at WDW this or…
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Disstevefan1
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Totally agree.
The ironic thing for me is I am beginning to feel there is more value in some of the hard ticket events than the day tickets.
Nubs70
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Like math?? How did USF get brought into this?
You know how to get a daily attendance figure of over250,000 per day? (This works for any attendance based entity. WDW is used as example only. Disclaimer provided to permeate cranial density)
1. Be open for 10 hours.
2. Total daily patrons 30,000
3. Convert DVC kiosks to Admissions kiosks complete with turnstile
4. Sell hourly admission tickets at 10% of current daily rate.
Therefore 30,000 patrons*10 admission/day = 300,000 gate clicks per day.
GhostHost1000
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I’ve heard many of those same things as well from friends, co-workers, and even family members…many of those who used to go every year or 2.
Not a good trend for ol Bobby
V_L_Raptor
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And there are quite a few, once here, who are cancelling various reservations and trying to get their money back. That was a conversation I overheard several times throughout the day.
Ayla
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For Genie+?
V_L_Raptor
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Dining was the big one I heard.
V_L_Raptor
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Following up on this...
I was primarily in Epcot to pass through for some fish and chips and to take the boat to DHS. (I've found that taking the bus to HS from MK is a losing proposition... the wait time for that bus to arrive was around 45 minutes or so last time I tried. Why bother with waiting in line when I could just pass through Epcot for dinner instead?) Today I got a survey asking about how much dining I did in Epcot versus at other parks versus outside the parks. I didn't have much nice to say about the value for price at the fish shop (wow, they give a lot less now). They then went through and asked me all of their demographics questions, which look like a fun slice and dice to massage the data. (I love it how the demographics questions now always include coverage of interest in Star Wars, general Disney, and Marvel.)
As an additional side note... Not much usage on that boat to the Studios, especially from Beach Club and Boardwalk. More folks from Swolphin, but it was only about half full by the time it got to HS.
I was primarily in Epcot to pass through for some fish and chips and to take the boat to DHS. (I've found that taking the bus to HS from MK is a losing proposition... the wait time for that bus to arrive was around 45 minutes or so last time I tried. Why bother with waiting in line when I could just pass through Epcot for dinner instead?) Today I got a survey asking about how much dining I did in Epcot versus at other parks versus outside the parks. I didn't have much nice to say about the value for price at the fish shop (wow, they give a lot less now). They then went through and asked me all of their demographics questions, which look like a fun slice and dice to massage the data. (I love it how the demographics questions now always include coverage of interest in Star Wars, general Disney, and Marvel.)
As an additional side note... Not much usage on that boat to the Studios, especially from Beach Club and Boardwalk. More folks from Swolphin, but it was only about half full by the time it got to HS.
davis_unoxx
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On monorail last night, I heard people next to me complaining that animal kingdom closes at 6 pm. Saying they’ve never seen pandora at night, a land that was supposed to glow in the dark and was made for nighttime…
Also complained about magic kingdom closing at 10 and the rush it creates outside gates
This is what my leaders would do when the area leaders were pushing efficiency. A minute or two before the end of the hour they'd ask us coordinators to "add 200" or "add 75" or once "add 372" to the hourly count and poof! We'd "hit our numbers" for the hour!
Nevermind that certain attractions had an hourly target that was literally impossible no matter how great the crew was, the projected hourly target number simply wasn't possible. But that didn't stop the area leaders and their leaders from barking orders to the front line leaders to "hit the numbers" and then artificially adding to the count so no one would have to face the wrath of some of the more "delightful" area leaders.
peter11435
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Is this a serious question. Do you honestly not see the point?
You’re implying that one of the reasons MK holds the top spot for attendance is their double selling the park. I’m simply pointing out that by that logic USF receives an even greater boost to its attendance.
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Tha Realest
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WDW runs two separate after hours ticketed events during Christmas (November & December) in their parks. Does Universal do the same?
Ayla
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Skyliner not running?
V_L_Raptor
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Skyliner was up and running yesterday, although I didn't get a closer look. There were some storms in the area earlier on, so I didn't feel like trying it, for my own comfort. Can't speak to how busy it was.
TrainsOfDisney
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Boat takes about the same time.
Pepper's Ghost
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I've heard this so much lately. A couple of families still going, but so many more "regular" Disney vacationers who just don't enjoy it the way they used to, don't get to ride nearly as many rides, it's lost all spontaneity, and they had to give Disney their first-born on their last trip. They said they figure they'll just keep their remaining kids and vacation elsewhere.
I'm shocked how much I've heard this recently. At first it seemed like just talk, but now it's real. I personally haven't been there in a decade.
erasure fan1
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Getting? I think it passed expensive back in 05.
DisneyNittany
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I think the best way that I can put it, at least for myself and my wife, is that WDW trips cause way more anxiety now than they ever had. Almost to the point where we experience more anxiety than we do enjoyment. Disney World was our anti-anxiety medicine that allowed us to escape the real world for a bit. Now, you're paying more for way less, as well as having to micromanage your entire vacation by the minute.
We were going to take the our girls down in the Fall, since we used to love going over a Penn State bye week, but have all but officially cancelled that trip. We are instead opting for an RV road trip through New England/upstate New York. Haven't even done a price compare to see if it makes sense to keep WDW reservations or not. It's more so that it sounded way more relaxing, and both of us felt a tremendous weight lifted when we decided that we weren't going to be doing a WDW trip.
I would NEVER have imagined saying that ~5 years ago. I would have paid for Disney to repeatedly kick me in the nuts and thanked them, if it meant I could go to the parks.
We were going to take the our girls down in the Fall, since we used to love going over a Penn State bye week, but have all but officially cancelled that trip. We are instead opting for an RV road trip through New England/upstate New York. Haven't even done a price compare to see if it makes sense to keep WDW reservations or not. It's more so that it sounded way more relaxing, and both of us felt a tremendous weight lifted when we decided that we weren't going to be doing a WDW trip.
I would NEVER have imagined saying that ~5 years ago. I would have paid for Disney to repeatedly kick me in the nuts and thanked them, if it meant I could go to the parks.
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Our planning stage back in the day was borrowing the WDW Fodors Guide at the local library and making written notes.