In regards to companies it’s the same company you and I have been supporting for many decades. It is irony that some critic the ones in charge but have never walked a second in their shoes to see what it takes to run a business.
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GhostHost1000
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Most Disney fans that have been around for a few decades can easily see the failures they have made and continue to make without ever walking in their shoes.
Some of the same fans for some decades complaining of standing in lines too long to ride an attraction… then came fast pass , genie and some are still complaining not with standing in line but with pricing. A never ending complaint when changes happen and the same continue to feed the Mouse.
bwr827
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There are obvious and massive failures on that list. Like how they mishandled the Star Wars franchise.
There are successes, too.
I’m hopeful they will begin to make meaningful new investments into the WDW offering, to better justify the steep price.
GhostHost1000
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You really don’t get it do you?
Let’s say you have a favorite restaurant and enjoy it and the atmosphere so much you keep going back again but you begin see that quality is going down, the atmosphere changes they are making aren’t as good, the prices keep going up, and some of your favorite menu items you’ve prepaid extra for you can’t get because their grill goes down so often when you go now.
John park hopper
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We used to like the Coral Reef restaurant went in 2017 had great service and the food was good, Went back in 2019 with my son wife and grand daughters the serve was abysmal - waited for ever to place our order -waited literally an hour to get our food (place was not that busy) the food was mediocre at best. Will never go back.
I get things change but guests continue to go to WDW and DL. Disney will be fine.
Mishandled yes but it was Iger magic that Disney got Pixar Marvel and SW franchises under their belt. I’d like to see Black Panther land come into reality. Many a critics talked down that an all black cast and storyline of Black Panther would be a failure. The strong dissenting word was from Iger and he made that movie happen and the rest is history.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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We revisit locations that have previously disappointed us and were pleasantly surprised at Coral Reef in December. They actually can prepare and present a steak better than the current California Grill which is unusual for a "seafood" restaurant.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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All which have suffered reputational impairment (ie significant reduction in goodwill) as a result.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
“Fine” is not what we want when it could be better and “great”
John park hopper
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When you are paying WDW TS prices it should not be a gamble whether or not the service and food are good. Always have had great service and food at JIKO and they will get my business until they disappoint me
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Some like us too don't believe 1 strike you're out mentality. We back to see if experience is improved.
And both our families keep supporting even with the changes. We go to escape the real world and enjoy WDW which some may never experience in their lifetime.
bwr827
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Few things in life should be “one strike you’re out”.
ABQ
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I have gone to Jiko every year since 2004, outside of I believe 2 missed years 2020-2021 and only one time was it a disappointment as the manager had changed. However, word got out swiftly that things were not as they once were and things went back to exceptional. Still think they are missing some of the fantastic server staff they once had, and that carries over to other areas of the parts, especially I would say EPCOT where it still seems that the closure during covid and loss of "cultural representatives" has not truly rebounded and we still see rando generic epcot fill in cast. Very obvious in Italy.
TrainsOfDisney
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Are you forgetting the 21 years?
Vegas Disney Fan
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I think we all hope this, I chuckle when people ask why there’s so many “haters” here, we’re here because we love Disney, we don’t hate it, we just hate many of the recent decisions.
If haters stop posting in forums like this Disney will be in huge trouble because that will mean their audience has lost hope, once that happens they’ve lost those guests.
The shareholders led by Roy Disney and Stanley Gold seem to think so. The campaign to get rid of Eisner worked.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Eisner had 2 distinct eras, the wonderful pre Wells death, pre EuroDisney era, and the horrible post Wells death, post EuroDisney era… unfortunately losing Wells and EuroDisneys initial failure turned Eisner from a parks loving dreamer into a budget focused micromanager.
I dont think you’ll get many arguments it was time for Eisner to go after he gave us DCA, MGM, and the Studio Park in Paris, it’s sad that he lost his love for the parks and went from beautiful ambitious projects like EuroDisney and AK to uninspired parks built around the cheap studio “theme”.
Unfortunately Iger has followed a similar path, early in his reign he gave us amazing projects like DCA 2.0, Pandora, etc and now we get cheap uninspired projects like Pixar Pier and Cosmic Rewind, an amazing ride stuck inside a huge blue box.
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