Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

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Lilofan

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
…hey this just in, Candyland children…

Attendance is down
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Ige at CNBC this afternoon -" At WDW we will continue to manage against wage inflation".

In English - looking at costs , efficiencies , to help pay for higher wages, bringing down company debt , layoffs are part of efficiencies
 
Epcot81Fan

Epcot81Fan

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Lilofan said:
Ige at CNBC this afternoon -" At WDW we will continue to manage against wage inflation".

In English - looking at costs , efficiencies , to help pay for higher wages, bringing down company debt , layoffs are part of efficiencies
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Easy-peasy - just take ride vehicles offline, reduce capacity, increase wait times, sell more G+ and ILL. Bam.

Next problem?
 
MrPromey

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Lilofan said:
Iger just said on Wall Street earnings call expects international tourism to WDW will be down. That’s not good.
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Good thing D+ will be turning a profit any day now so they can start to support the Parks as Disney does what is needed to get guests to return.

Right?

... Right?

👍
 
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Lilofan

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MrPromey said:
They need to start selling it on the courtesy trams, and at the resort bus stops and monorail/skyliner stations to start softening people up before they get to the gates.
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I've already seen a few fellow guests get liquored up in the parking lots before boarding the tram
 
Miss Bella

Miss Bella

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Lilofan said:
Iger just said on Wall Street earnings call expects international tourism to WDW will be down. That’s not good.
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Credit card debt is at all time and auto and credit card delinquencies are on the rise. It’s no surprise people are cutting back.
We usually take three vacations a year. Next year will just one vacation. Every single essential thing in my life from my electric bill to food and everything in between is up in price and not just a little bit up in price.

I would totally go to WDW next year if I could afford two vacations. Even with the negative changes it’s still fun. With limited vacation dollars it’s not my first choice.
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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jpeden said:
If anyone still wants to argue attendance is not down you’re just sticking your head in the sand.

Iger dodged a question about it harder than OJ dodged a guilty verdict.
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I've visited a few times this year (5 days or more each visit), and one thing I've noticed by far is the difference in crowds at the resorts. I've stayed at Wilderness Lodge, Yacht Club and Boardwalk so far this year and all three have been much less crowded than years past.

Less crowded at the resort bars, restaurants and pools as well.
 
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jpeden

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JD80 said:
Anyone arguing that it's up?
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A bunch of people in this thread because “the lines were longer than last time I was here.”

Versus the hard data of empty restaurants, plentiful reservations, empty resorts, and @lentesta and co’s data driven approach showing a 15% drop in attendance.

But by all means, you waited in line 10 minutes longer than in 2022 so attendance must be up - let’s not consider staffing is down or rides are being run at less capacity.
 
LittleBuford

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Chi84 said:
It just seems to be more appropriate to the restaurant forum than a thread about attendance.

WDW has a lot of problems but I doubt too many people are choosing other places over it because of the pizza. One of the things we like about WDW is the variety in counter service offerings, including plant-based ones. It doesn’t seem fair to measure it by pizza. Just my opinion.
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For my vegan partner, WDW and Disneyland offer a range of options he’d be hard pressed to find elsewhere. I know it’s anathema to say so here, but we both think the food is pretty good (or most of what we’ve tried, at any rate).
 
JD80

JD80

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jpeden said:
A bunch of people in this thread because “the lines were longer than last time I was here.”

Versus the hard data of empty restaurants, plentiful reservations, empty resorts, and @lentesta and co’s data driven approach showing a 15% drop in attendance.

But by all means, you waited in line 10 minutes longer than in 2022 so attendance must be up - let’s not consider staffing is down or rides are being run at less capacity.
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My impression of the thread is mostly two groups of people. The first are people who are saying it's way down. The second are people saying it's either about the same or not that much slower in response.

I don't think anyone is saying it's more crowded.

Comes down to what people consider way down or slightly down I guess. It's subjective to people on vacation. It's more analytical to people like Len Testa.
 
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Marionnette

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JD80 said:
My impression of the thread is mostly two groups of people. The first are people who are saying it's way down. The second are people saying it's either about the same or not that much slower in response.

I don't think anyone is saying it's more crowded.

Comes down to what people consider way down or slightly down I guess. It's subjective to people on vacation. It's more analytical to people like Len Testa.
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I think two things can be true at he same time. Attendance can be down and it can still feel "just as crowded" as it has at the same time in previous years. Attendance is a number that can be quantified. "Feeling crowded" is a qualitative analysis and is subjective.

Regardless, from the company's standpoint, they can see that the numbers are down at WDW.
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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Marionnette said:
I think two things can be true at he same time. Attendance can be down and it can still feel "just as crowded" as it has at the same time in previous years. Attendance is a number that can be quantified. "Feeling crowded" is a qualitative analysis and is subjective.

Regardless, from the company's standpoint, they can see that the numbers are down at WDW.
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exactly... of course HEA and Fantasmic are going to be crowded, and ride lines can be long when other rides go down during the day and people are abusing DAS

I think it's interesting how the parties are selling out more now even at higher prices. Honestly, I think it's saying some are just frustrated with the normal day park experience (G+, etc.) and willing to sometimes JUST go to the after hours parties. I know several who have taken a small trip and only did that where before they have a week of park tickets
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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GhostHost1000 said:
exactly... of course HEA and Fantasmic are going to be crowded, and ride lines can be long when other rides go down during the day and people are abusing DAS

I think it's interesting how the parties are selling out more now even at higher prices. Honestly, I think it's saying some are just frustrated with the normal day park experience (G+, etc.) and willing to sometimes JUST go to the after hours parties. I know several who have taken a small trip and only did that where before they have a week of park tickets
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We were discussing this the other day - could you do a trip of just after hours/parties and not go for a regular park day on a trip. At least now that means never doing Animal Kingdom, but outside of that, especially during the summer heat, not a bad way to go

and this is projecting out a bit, but once Epic Universe opens I could see doing a drip mostly around Universal and then adding in an After Hours or party night at Disney just to get a bit of the Disney feels
 

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