Do you know how popular Motion was?
You keep arguing your point of view with little to back it up.
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EPCOT Inside Out to Replace Journey into Imagination with Figment?
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You keep arguing your point of view with little to back it up.
Rich Brownn
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I'd even go as fas as saying in the original EPCOT Center, WoM and Imagination were probably the two most popular rides with the longest lines
justintheharris
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World of Motion was among the first of the future world attractions to close. That’s usually an indication of popularity. Test Track still draws one of the longest lines in Epcot despite being decades old now.
It closed due to GM having to follow the contract which stipulated any re negotiated contract with GM -which this was - had to be for a new ride, not an overhaul.
Test Track was planned from 1992. I can testify how popular Motion still was in July 1993.
It also helps Test Track has around half the capacity that Motion had, even more so in a park that in the 90s had much more overall capacity than today.
Did you still want to discuss a new old Epcot using todays tech?
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lazyboy97o
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Expedition Everest was a far better return on investment than any of the franchise mandate attractions built since its opening.
FrankLapidus
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How about a 2019 iteration with the Dreamfinder?
We don't all want Epcot Center from the 1980's resurrected as it was then - some of us just aren't so creatively constrained and IP obsessed that we believe there is only one way to improve the parks.
eddie104
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But unfortunately you know were probably not getting that. I mean Figment is a iconic character that deserves a presence in the park but I don’t see today’s Disney rebuilding it to today’s standards.
justintheharris
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Uh... Flight of Passage caused double digit attendance increases two years in a row?
justintheharris
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I don’t think it’s possible in terms of today’s technology and today’s culture. First, the interest among the general public isn’t there. And more importantly , Disney can’t consistently update epcot every year which is what would need to happen for it to remain relevant. And in an age of internet and smart phones, Disney would be hard pressed to find brand new innovative technology that I couldn’t find with ten minutes on google. It would be very difficult to amaze the general public at this point.
lazyboy97o
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And it cost several times more to get each of those new guests into the park. Better to spend $100 than $500 to attract a new customer.
starri42
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There was also nothing stopping them from continuing on without a sponsor, or negotiating a new deal with with a different company.
This is what I mean when I say that the way they're operating now is the same way they've always operated.
justintheharris
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Well I’d still wanna see numbers on that claim. Without a doubt Pandora was more expensive but Animal Kingdom is still riding high on its success.
MaximumEd
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I reject the premise that people don’t care about “edutainment” in the smart phone age. The city I live in has a place called The McWane Science Center. It has 3 floors of a large building with an attached IMAX theater featuring a ton of displays centering around science, tech, and nature. The place is constantly packed and really well done. Just because I can Google the Louvre doesn’t mean I don’t want to go. Do it right and people will come.
Haymarket2008
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So......Figment’s restored glory in a new iteration. How’s it looking, insiders?
huwar18
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Exactly! They have the newer Marvel comics with Dreamfinder. I would love if they brought him in. I know a lot of people discussed that idea earlier in the thread.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Out of pure curiosity, because WoM is the one attraction I never researched as extensively as others... What was the popularity numbers towards the attractions later years in comparison to Test Track?
Purely out of curiosity. I actually believed I would have enjoyed WOM better much like I would enjoy Horizons more than M:S. Simply because I'm a dark ride kinda person. But I also do know that thrills draw in the crowds, sadly.
I know that Horizons started to die out due to never being updated. How about World of Motion, though?
huwar18
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The only reason Disney benefits from the IP craze is because they are pushing it. Disney always had IP based rides. However, there was a good balance. The balance is tilting now towards all IP attractions. An Epcot Center like park can still be relevant. Seeing new technology in person is completely different than looking at it on a computer screen. That’s a totally different issue.
starri42
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What's your rationale for saying that?
huwar18
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For years, Disney created non-IP rides and they were just as big as any of the new IP driven rides. Most of them are still very popular, if not some of the most popular rides in Disney (HM, POTC, EE, BTM, RNRC etc..). Disney benefits from the IP driven rides because they are constantly adding IPs. They are not creating original attractions anymore. If I am not mistaking, the newest non-IP attraction at WDW is Expedition Everest (2006?).
kurtk
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Just went back a couple of weeks and didn't see any mention of this topic so sorry if it was discussed.
I was listening to a recent podcast from Dizney Coast to Coast. I believe it was the one from June 19th with Imagineer Mark Eades. When he was asked about Figment and JII, he said most people don't care about Figment or kn0w who he is. What he did suggest I thought was brilliant.
Using Disney+ make an animated show around Figment. That would get people excited about his attraction when they came to Epcot. The attraction could be updated so that it ties in with the show. I would think that people inside Disney would find it a great project to come up with a story line for a new show and an attraction all at the same time.
Any thoughts?
I was listening to a recent podcast from Dizney Coast to Coast. I believe it was the one from June 19th with Imagineer Mark Eades. When he was asked about Figment and JII, he said most people don't care about Figment or kn0w who he is. What he did suggest I thought was brilliant.
Using Disney+ make an animated show around Figment. That would get people excited about his attraction when they came to Epcot. The attraction could be updated so that it ties in with the show. I would think that people inside Disney would find it a great project to come up with a story line for a new show and an attraction all at the same time.
Any thoughts?