EPCOT Inside Out to Replace Journey into Imagination with Figment?

[rle4lunch]

What did the 4 y.o. think of it?

He liked the air blown in his face, that's about it.. Didn't talk about it after we got off the ride again. His favorite ride was Splash Mountain, Haunted Mansion and the Safari.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Knowing Disney they'd probably cast Josh Gad as Dreamfinder.

No doubt about it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I ride it at least every other trip, it’s not terrible. It feels more Disney quality then the mermaid ride to me.

I know it’s not the original but compared to other Disney dark ride attractions it’s still fun.

 

[mlayton144]

I ride it at least every other trip, it’s not terrible. It feels more Disney quality then the mermaid ride to me.

I know it’s not the original but compared to other Disney dark ride attractions it’s still fun.

And a nice 15 minutes in the air conditioning

 

[DisneyJayL]

I went on this for the first time this year. It’s was a ride my kids really enjoyed. I was pleasantly surprised.

I still understand it sorely needs an update or 6.

 

[trainplane3]

So...did Pete Docter get overridden (spelling?) by Bobby? Or is the article nothing? I understand this is a ways off, just curious. @marni1971?

Rumor Update: Forgetting Figment & Hello Epcot Center

It's getting hot here in Southern California, and that has me hunkered down in my air conditioned rumor mill. Epcot is in my sights today and said mill is spinning pretty wildly. The on-and-off rumor about

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[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

The solution is so freakin obvious. Disney needs to grow a pair and greenlight an Imagination! movie and later base whatever attraction they conceive off of the success of that movie. They have a crap ton of venues to put Figment and Dreamfinder in the mainstream. Would it not be in Disney's best interest to see how well these characters are received? There's plenty of places an Inside Out attraction can be added. I for one would rather it in MK.

 

[Indy_UK]

Surely Figment show or movie on Disney+ would be the most cost effective way to see if there's a demand for Figment

 

[shortstop]

So...did Pete Docter get overridden (spelling?) by Bobby? Or is the article nothing? I understand this is a ways off, just curious. @marni1971?

Rumor Update: Forgetting Figment & Hello Epcot Center

It's getting hot here in Southern California, and that has me hunkered down in my air conditioned rumor mill. Epcot is in my sights today and said mill is spinning pretty wildly. The on-and-off rumor about

www.micechat.com

Just a few days ago, Micechat put out a “rumor” that Disneyland’s small world might be on the move to Tokyo, so I’m taking whatever they say with a large grain of salt.

 

[Kman101]

Tony Baxter has stated in podcast if you Google the word figment that purple dragon is always the first thing to pop up.

They're crazy not to do at least a Disney+ series. He can teach Peter Pan how to read again!

Figment gives them so many opportunities. Why are they not capitalizing on him? My guess ... they want guests to forget about him. I bet they were disappointed in the positive survey results he got (not to mention the comic sold surprisingly well ... yet they never capitalized on that???)

 

[Mac Tonight]

What always gets me, is that even with Chapek hell-bent on inserting IP into everything, he has to realize that Figment himself is an IP. Just not one that is known widely outside the parks. Which can easily change with the advent of Disney+.

This ain't rocket science, Bobby!

 

[Timothy_Q]

I would like BOTH a new Imagination ride with Figment AND a new Inside Out ride

We'll probably get neither tho

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Figment gives them so many opportunities. Why are they not capitalizing on him? My guess ... they want guests to forget about him. I bet they were disappointed in the positive survey results he got (not to mention the comic sold surprisingly well ... yet they never capitalized on that???)

Inner. WDI. Office. Politics. That is all. Couple that with risk averse CEOs and execs, and this is the mess that’s unleashed.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

PS: Do *these* rumors/events sound at all familiar? They should. :

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

From the old Figment’s Imagination fan mail section.... again... deja vu anyone?? You might come to a *shocking* revelation of what’s going on here:

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Inner. WDI. Office. Politics. That is all. Couple that with risk averse CEOs and execs, and this is the mess that’s unleashed.

That's a shame.

How does Figment merch sell these days? If it does well you'd think all these guys would eat crow.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

If you want to piece together what’s *really* stopping Figment from returning properly and how this is all happened. I’d recommend reading these. What truly started this was Horizons’ lack of guest ridership/popularity and loss of sponsorship:

Eddie Sotto's take on the current state of the parks

So the issue you have hit upon in these situations, is that everything is the same underneath, but "different" on the surface to the guest. The project was sold as being very intimate and as realistic as possible to space missions. In real missions you are prompted to do things like release...

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E82 - The Epcot Legacy - Historical Expositions - GATHER, STORE, RE-COMBINE - A History of Imagination (Part 3)

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From Cheshire Figment (aka: Mike Tuchman) (R.I.P.) who was one of the key people involved with the “Friends of Figment” group who helped “bring Figment back” into the attraction thanks to attending shareholders meetings, etc. mentions this on the DIS forums for further context on how the attraction was able to be changed the way it was. :

Tony himself has also mentioned previously that “there were some politics involved” regarding the decisions for the ride’s changes in this interview conducted with him. But he doesn’t elaborate any further than that. Try and guess why:

Tony Baxter: A Conversation -- Journey Into Imagination

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[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

The very same year that Horizons closed due to the reasons mentioned in Sotto’s post. Interestingly enough , “Honey, I Shrunk the Audience” had opened shortly after. (This, I believe, was the start of the ‘film IP’ takeover at Epcot). With that also came a change to the line queue, entrance, & signage for the Magic Eye Theater. The monorail spiel’s wording was also changed around this time. Notice the lack of mentioning of ImageWorks & the attraction itself being mentioned (3:43):


This official t-shirt was released around this same time aswell:

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

This article from the Orlando Sentinel’s got some pretty fascinating info in here also. Pay close attention to the names and examples mentioned: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.or...s/os-xpm-2002-05-28-0205280197-story,amp.html
And something to go along with this article. You guys notice these signs and the eerily similar plot/tone these two attractions have? I don’t think that’s a coincidence folks.:

Odd, right?
Almost like Tiki Room: Under New Management just *might’ve* been poking fun at management at the time, and the Journey Into Imagination With Figment ride was poking fun at the whole “Your Imagination/Friends of Figment/Bring Figment Back” controversy. Eh? (I’ll get more in depth on that in a minute)

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Before I go further on my more in depth analysis of the show scenes & plot of Journey Into Your Imagination and the With Figment versions. I also want to point this out.... notice the striking resemblance?? Hmm.. And btw, what’s the current load area built on top of?