PizzaPlanet
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Interesting. If they do go with Figment and Dreamfinder, I wonder if they'll use these plans or come up with something new.
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Rumor Inside Out to Replace Journey into Imagination with Figment?
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Over in our Imagineering forum, I threw a few of my own ideas out there regarding this pavilion.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/epcot-2032.928786/
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/epcot-2032.928786/
Gringrinngghost
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As Martin said, work will be done in 5-6 years. As of Right now Imagination will be redone around 2023, There is currently NO IP selected but it's going to be major work as the budget just for redoing Imagination is currently sitting at 15% of the budget to redo Epcot. The Budget is also bigger than Guardians of the Galaxy by about 20-25%.
Ismael Flores
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Agreed, I really enjoyed the original imagination ride. The ride was fun and enjoyable and what made it more memorable was that it was complimented by all the other fun thins in the pavilion. All of Epcot was the same way, it didn't matter that the rides started looking cheesy and a bit outdated while the rest of the world technology kept getting better. What made the park interesting was that the pavilions actually things to do.
when they went in and changed the imagination ride and closed down the second floor then it destroyed the pavilion.
One thing I hate about WDW and the team that run it is the wrong decisions to just cut away at things that could be kept up and updated with newer technology and still keep the ride fresh. Instead the get rides that were designed to fit huge buildings and cut the ride lengths and then leave large sections of the show buildings empty. The amount of dead space in WDE is amazing. I am not sure how it is now but I remember when the park opened you could explore every time inch of most buildings and now they have large sections of them closed off and rotting making areas of the park look empty.
At this point if adding characters like Inside out will bring back to life the imagination pavilion then go for it. Hopefully the second floor comes back to life also even if it's for a cool looking lounge and eatery with great theming
Maeryk
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Considering we are like, 5 years out, I wouldn't count on inside out, unless they somehow sequel it by then. It will be a 7 year old film by then.
I could see a ride based around concepts.. one of which might be inside out.. and a bunch of other vignettes and snippets, but I don't really see that expensive a refurb going to what is effectively a dead IP. I doubt we'll ever have diamond edition vault releases of that film.
I could see a ride based around concepts.. one of which might be inside out.. and a bunch of other vignettes and snippets, but I don't really see that expensive a refurb going to what is effectively a dead IP. I doubt we'll ever have diamond edition vault releases of that film.
FettFan
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If this is true...then I'm done. I'm out. It's not worth spending my time or money at WDW anymore.
Maeryk
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Insider info has the Imagination work pushed out by years, and no specific IP attached. As I said above.. assuming it gets started in 5 years.. I doubt IO would be the IP. It will be old and rather dated by then.
Heck, knowing Disney, it wouldn't surprise me if they were co-developing an IP specifically designed for the pavilion with one of the studios arms, just so they could have original, branded IP that is designed to fit.
Which it seemed like they were trying to do with Tomorrowland, but it fell flat.
Ismael Flores
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I don't understand the whole thing about the upstairs being hard to access. It never seemed to an issue when the pavilion ran well for several years. The place always had plenty of people going up and down the escalators and never did I see it crowded to the point that it caused issues
FettFan
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The thing is... Figment and Dreamfinder have hit a bit of Renaissance over the past couple of years thanks to Disney and Marvel.
That's all the IP one really needs, and with the technology being used nowadays, these two could easily return to their rightful places as the de facto mascots for Epcot.
Maeryk
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Simply put, people got rowdier and less polite, and the park traffic increased a lot.
Maeryk
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The thing is... Figment and Dreamfinder have hit a bit of Renaissance over the past couple of years thanks to Disney and Marvel.
That's all the IP one really needs, and with the technology being used nowadays, these two could easily return to their rightful places as the de facto mascots for Epcot.
You are preaching to the choir. I love the steampunk aesthetic they have done with the comics, (and it hearkens back to dreamfinders skymobile thing too.. which was steampunk AF before steampunk was even a thing).
No matter what they do to Figment I highly doubt they'd get rid of the the building. They're not even getting rid of the UoE building nor did they get rid of the World of Motion building when they built Test Track.
Those glass pyramids are here to stay for a long time. What will be in them is anyone's guess.
Allocated Imag budget is currently less than the Guardians budget.
MerlinTheGoat
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This thread is overdue for someone to post Martin's tribute of the original ride. He's got a new higher quality edit coming soon in the future but this will do for now. For those who just want the attraction itself, queue starts at 8 minutes in, ride at the 10:30 mark (I do recommend you watch the rest of the video though for knowledge's sake)-
Classic Disney imagineering at its finest. Masterfully designed, overflowing with quality, nothing else like it. There were obviously rides with larger animatronic populations, but this one was still filled with insanely detailed setpieces and tons of awesome effects (some simple, some complex, all incredibly well designed and executed). It had so much soul and charm.
Classic Disney imagineering at its finest. Masterfully designed, overflowing with quality, nothing else like it. There were obviously rides with larger animatronic populations, but this one was still filled with insanely detailed setpieces and tons of awesome effects (some simple, some complex, all incredibly well designed and executed). It had so much soul and charm.
Gringrinngghost
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Thank's for the clarification, I don't know when the data I saw was produced,you would be a bit more knowledgeable to it than I.
Lucky Rabbit
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I'd assume whatever the initial ideas were for the budget have been largely expanded. According to Box Office Mojo Guardians Vol. 1 made: $773,328,629 and Guardians Vol. 2 made: $859,302,680
Add in the success of the Disneyland ride and their continued relevancy with upcoming Guardians Vol 3 and big roles in Avengers 3 and 4. I'm sure the Guardians ride will bring a lot more people to Epcot, where as an upgraded Imagination pavilion won't have nearly the same impact for Disney's bottom line.
Lucky Rabbit
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Inside Out also fits. It's literally PART OF THE MOVIE
I'd be down for a whole mini-Imagination Land. Tear down the current pavilion. Put in a new Figment ride next to an Inside out Ride, and maybe make a crazy imagination play area.
Dapper Dan
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The second most popular, in fact. The only ride more popular was Spaceship Earth, mostly due to its location.
That's an awful lot of pairs of nostalgia glasses.
Can i get a pair of those with the old epcot logo on them ?The second most popular, in fact. The only ride more popular was Spaceship Earth, mostly due to its location.
That's an awful lot of pairs of nostalgia glasses.
disney1023
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You know, Dreamfinder is used as the mascot for EPCOT Center and Figment is the mascot of today's Epcot. What I'm saying is that Dreamfinder won't come back because of the nostalgia and merchandise sales of former EPCOT Center.