Rumor Inside Out to Replace Journey into Imagination with Figment?

[Rk2k5]

I wish they would also bring back captain eo when I was little I loved that show

 

[Magenta Panther]

If Disney doesn't want to make a theatrical Dreamfinder and Figment movie, how about a Disney Channel one? Some of the DC movies have been pretty enjoyable, like the original "Halloweentown". A well-financed, well-written TV movie could go a long way towards reviving public interest in Dreamfinder and Figment. And it would attract all ages, not just teens. I know for sure I'd watch it!

 

[Figments Friend]

It's probably already been brought up here, but for those not aware there was a tv series in development back in the early 1980s for The Disney Channel titled 'Dreamfinders' that starred our favorite imaginative duo.

If there was enough interest within the Corporate ranks to invest in a series today, that would have the potential to reach a far greater audience then a theatrical film would.
Television, steaming, cable, YouTube, Internet marketing, etc is where most of today's target audiences see things.

A series or even a one-shot TV movie would be a far less expensive venture and less risky in the Studios' eyes then trying to turn it into a 'tent pole' blockbuster theatrical release.
Today's Disney doesn't want to take such risks now, sadly.



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[brb1006]

I wouldn't make a whole movie about him to release in theaters. I think it would be better for Disney +. But I do agree Disney needs to make something to boost his popularity back to where it was.

Here's a better alternative, an animated movie starring Dreamfinder and Figment that's actually creative and giving the characters more exposure to the general public.

 

[NiarrNDisney]

I've mentioned this before elsewhere, but the success of the 'Figment' comic book series did ressurect the idea of making a live action fantasy film based on the story.
It's something that has been talked about in the past, and I know a few people within the Company who would love to see it happen.
It would be a great way to spread the story and a asset for those still trying to get those imaginative characters back 'home'.

A few years ago when the comic series was in print and being very successful, big budget fantasy films were the hottest ticket at the movies.
It would have been the perfect time to invest in a film based on the story.
It had everything...and today's visual effects could convincingly pull off the needed story elements.

Today however, I don't think the Studio would be interested in investing heavily in something of this nature...but you never know.
They have had a couple of expensive busts ( 'Nutcracker', etc. ) and are playing it even safer now ( 'Dumbo' live action, 'Lion King' live action, etc. )
I have doubts anyone with the funds would want to seriously invest in it at this point in time, but there is this -
Turning old Disney characters and previously told stories into hot new CGI family films is still the thing right now though with the Studio....so anything is indeed possible.

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I wonder if Pixar would consider taking on the project.

 

[brb1006]

If Disney doesn't want to make a theatrical Dreamfinder and Figment movie, how about a Disney Channel one? Some of the DC movies have been pretty enjoyable, like the original "Halloweentown". A well-financed, well-written TV movie could go a long way towards reviving public interest in Dreamfinder and Figment. And it would attract all ages, not just teens. I know for sure I'd watch it!

There was a live-action series called "Dreamfinders" that was planned to air as part of the original Disney Channel lineup when it first launched in 1983.

The only evidence of the show existing was this old magazine advertisement.

Screenshot of "Ask Dave" question concerning the status of Dreamfinders from the D23 website.

A Lost Media page was even created on the unproduced series. One of the members in the site was even able to find a script from the show from an episode called "Just In Time"

Lost Media page
https://lostmediawiki.com/Dreamfinders_(unproduced_Disney_Channel_TV_series;_1983)

 

[brb1006]

It's probably already been brought up here, but for those not aware there was a tv series in development back in the early 1980s for The Disney Channel titled 'Dreamfinders' that starred our favorite imaginative duo.

If there was enough interest within the Corporate ranks to invest in a series today, that would have the potential to reach a far greater audience then a theatrical film would.
Television, steaming, cable, YouTube, Internet marketing, etc is where most of today's target audiences see things.

A series or even a one-shot TV movie would be a far less expensive venture and less risky in the Studios' eyes then trying to turn it into a 'tent pole' blockbuster theatrical release.
Today's Disney doesn't want to take such risks now, sadly.



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I don't know if you heard of the website "Lost Media". The site is dedicated to lost, unproduced projects, and hard to find media of the past and present. There is a page dedicated to "Dreamfinders" where more information on the show can be found.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Didn’t a script of the first episode get leaked? I have a contact of somebody who worked on the show, he might have more answers about it

 

[PorterRedkey]

With due respect, he is a FIGMENT of YOUR Imagination. Thus the fit.

thanks!

I think you're joking, but I believe TDO really thinks that way.

Great care was taken to establish him as a Figment of your imagination in the original ride, not so much in the current version.

It seems if Figment was included in an Inside Out ride, he would just be another part of the brain (anger, joy, sadness, imagination. etc...) The first attraction showcased what you could do with your imagination. The current attraction is as much about senses as it is imagination. I fear an Inside Out pavilion that included Figment would be more about emotions than imagination.

 

[eliza61nyc]

I wish they would also bring back captain eo when I was little I loved that show

Lol oh sweet Mary, please no and im pretty much a HUGE MJ fan, that was truly 15 minutes of my life wasted ( or however long it was). Omg it was so bad.
Lol you are literally the 1st person I ever say they liked it

 

[Phicinfan]

I think you're joking, but I believe TDO really thinks that way.

Great care was taken to establish him as a Figment of your imagination in the original ride, not so much in the current version.

It seems if Figment was included in an Inside Out ride, he would just be another part of the brain (anger, joy, sadness, imagination. etc...) The first attraction showcased what you could do with your imagination. The current attraction is as much about senses as it is imagination. I fear an Inside Out pavilion that included Figment would be more about emotions than imagination.

No, I was not joking, and yes, I had the opportunity to enjoy the original version of the Imagination ride. While I agree the ride has changed, Figment has not that much and he is still the force to help you use your imagination. So any redo surely must have him involved.

For the record, I don't believe and Inside out redo of Imagination really makes sense IF it remains the Imagination Pavilion. Emotions are not Imagination.

 

[PorterRedkey]

No, I was not joking, and yes, I had the opportunity to enjoy the original version of the Imagination ride. While I agree the ride has changed, Figment has not that much and he is still the force to help you use your imagination. So any redo surely must have him involved.

For the record, I don't believe and Inside out redo of Imagination really makes sense IF it remains the Imagination Pavilion. Emotions are not Imagination.

So you think if Figment (a Figment of YOUR imagination) was in Mission Space, that ride would be about imagination. Just because Figment is included in the current version does not make the ride about Imagination.

I think Figment is annoying in the current version instead of curious and loveable like in the original version.

 

[Phicinfan]

So you think if Figment (a Figment of YOUR imagination) was in Mission Space, that ride would be about imagination. Just because Figment is included in the current version does not make the ride about Imagination.

No, I don't think Figment makes it about Imagination - so if he is anywhere that makes it Imagination. However, I DO feel he makes the Imagination Pavilion what it is and is one of the most recognizable parts OF that Pavilion. To remove him would to me be a huge mistake

I think Figment is annoying in the current version instead of curious and loveable like in the original version.

I can see that point of view, to me he is still loveable, but a bit more "bratty" I guess. To be clear, I am all for another redo of the Pavilion, but not completely stripping out any resonance of current IP to make it an Inside Out Pavilion. Again, I don't see any way you can say Inside Out fits Imagination...so it either would become some other Pavilion, or they need to update current IP.

 

[DanielBB8]

Figment without Dreamfinder is half of Imagination. It’ll be creative to combine Figment with the Inside Out characters with a small story segment.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Original Figment - Charming, curious
Current Figment - Annoying, bratty



JIYI is one of the best (Meaning: worst) examples of second-decade-Eisner. Sadly, Iger/Chapek seem to pull from that playbook frequently.

 

[PorterRedkey]

No, I don't think Figment makes it about Imagination - so if he is anywhere that makes it Imagination. However, I DO feel he makes the Imagination Pavilion what it is and is one of the most recognizable parts OF that Pavilion. To remove him would to me be a huge mistake

I can see that point of view, to me he is still loveable, but a bit more "bratty" I guess. To be clear, I am all for another redo of the Pavilion, but not completely stripping out any resonance of current IP to make it an Inside Out Pavilion. Again, I don't see any way you can say Inside Out fits Imagination...so it either would become some other Pavilion, or they need to update current IP.

I think we agree on the main points.

I would be terribly sad if Figment ever left the Imagination pavilion. Let's hope any update will include Figment! Personally, I wouldn't mind bringing Dreamfinder (original or comic version) back as well.

 

[brb1006]

Didn’t a script of the first episode get leaked? I have a contact of somebody who worked on the show, he might have more answers about it

This link from the Lost Media article contains a script from the unproduced show.
https://mega.nz/#!qpBg3J5a!KDyKSawfQkIxLfdFdsBZpvaLJGMN3umYkCzEi5NoBO0

Dreamfinder was called "Old Eli" in the show.

Dreamfinder/Old Eli also appears at 1:23 mark of the video for the launch of Disney Channel.

 

[WDWYankee15]

Establish some shows on Disney+, Junior or on a Marvel programming block on Disney or Disney XD. They could use these outlets as a platform to reintroduce the characters or to attract new audiences unfamilar with the duo. Nostalgia is good and all but Disney needs to consider using the characters more prominently in the media... Get their faces out there to ensure Figment and Dreamfinder have staying power- for continued attraction use. If successful, give them an attraction worthy of the original! Figment is the perfect character for Disney Junior integration. And a Marvel Comics animated series would likely do very well!

But those making decisions at Disney for the parks don't care about nostalgia. They can about what will bring in new customers. How do I know this, look at Frozen Ever After in the very same park. They killed nostalgia to push a Frozen ride because it would ensure families with young children would go to the park. A park that has admittedly always struggled with connecting to families with children.

Customers who love nostalgia are generally already loyal customers and will be back for many reasons. You can kill and attraction or two and they will still come back. If you lose a few, that's just business in the name of adding even more new ones.

 

[WDWYankee15]

I've mentioned this before elsewhere, but the success of the 'Figment' comic book series did ressurect the idea of making a live action fantasy film based on the story.
It's something that has been talked about in the past, and I know a few people within the Company who would love to see it happen.
It would be a great way to spread the story and a asset for those still trying to get those imaginative characters back 'home'.

A few years ago when the comic series was in print and being very successful, big budget fantasy films were the hottest ticket at the movies.
It would have been the perfect time to invest in a film based on the story.
It had everything...and today's visual effects could convincingly pull off the needed story elements.

Today however, I don't think the Studio would be interested in investing heavily in something of this nature...but you never know.
They have had a couple of expensive busts ( 'Nutcracker', etc. ) and are playing it even safer now ( 'Dumbo' live action, 'Lion King' live action, etc. )
I have doubts anyone with the funds would want to seriously invest in it at this point in time, but there is this -
Turning old Disney characters and previously told stories into hot new CGI family films is still the thing right now though with the Studio....so anything is indeed possible.

-

This would be great, but alas I don't think we will see it. They would rather stick to retreading tried and true stories with "big name" actors for their movies. Heck, the Kingdom Keeper book series has done really well, but they never made a movie of that. There will always be people in the company that love certain characters, storylines, and ideas, but it takes buy in at a much higher level and across the board to make a multimillion dollar budget movie. Its sad but true. Its where the industry is today.

 

[PorterRedkey]

This would be great, but alas I don't think we will see it. They would rather stick to retreading tried and true stories with "big name" actors for there movies. Heck, the Kingdom Keeper book series has done really well, but they never made a movie of that. There will always be people in the company that love certain characters, storylines, and ideas, but it takes bye in at a much higher level and across the board to make a multimillion dollar budget movie. Its sad but true. Its where the industry is today.

I would LOVE a Kingdon Keepers movie! Plus the tie-ins with the parks would be fairly organic.