Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021

Dranth

Well-Known Member
I’m an Indy fan as well but I must be weird, I actually like KotCS.

The fridge part didn’t bother me, heck ToD has a priest sticking his hand into a dudes chest pulling out a beating heart. Ark of the Covenant and face melting in Raiders.

That said Mutt swinging through the jungle? Ugh.

For me my line in the sand is Dial but for a variety of reasons noted in the other thread.
Mutt in the jungle was terrible and the waterfall segment was pretty bad as well but I don't think those stand out as much to me because the nuke is right at the top of the movie. It tells you this whole thing is going to be ridiculous before they even get to the main plot. The rest was just fulfilling the promise that opening sequence made.

Anyway, the supernatural stuff never bothered me because it was always tied into the series in a way that felt like it fit in the universe they established. Temple was certainly the worst offender before KotCS to push or break the boundaries of that world and I believe that is a major reason it was not as well liked. KotCS wasn't a bad concept and had some good moments, but for me, the bad was just so bad I didn't enjoy the rest. It certainly has its fans and I am sure this one will as well but it has just felt like so few people get excited about Indy anymore that I was surprised they greenlit the project to start with.
 

Willmark

Well-Known Member
Mutt in the jungle was terrible and the waterfall segment was pretty bad as well but I don't think those stand out as much to me because the nuke is right at the top of the movie. It tells you this whole thing is going to be ridiculous before they even get to the main plot. The rest was just fulfilling the promise that opening sequence made.

Anyway, the supernatural stuff never bothered me because it was always tied into the series in a way that felt like it fit in the universe they established. Temple was certainly the worst offender before KotCS to push or break the boundaries of that world and I believe that is a major reason it was not as well liked. KotCS wasn't a bad concept and had some good moments, but for me, the bad was just so bad I didn't enjoy the rest. It certainly has its fans and I am sure this one will as well but it has just felt like so few people get excited about Indy anymore that I was surprised they greenlit the project to start with.
I get your points, I think we’re in agreement that from the start of the series it strained believability but mostly in a good way.

We just seem to have a different line where we draw it. No issues there IMO.

I know for some folks there are no Indy movies after Last Crusade and him riding off on horseback is a perfect ending to the trilogy. Can’t fault them for that.

Sorta like Highlander, it was great that it was a single movie! ;)
 

Movielover

Well-Known Member
I've seen it twice now. Non-spoiler review

Where do I even begin with my history with this franchise? Like a lot of people my connection with the Indiana Jones series goes back to before I can even recall. I don’t remember the first time my parents showed me Raiders of the Lost Ark, but from then on Raiders has been my favorite movie. To me it's the perfect blend of action and adventure and is the reason why I love movies. Those original 3 films were such a monumental aspect of my childhood and influence on my taste of entertainment. When the fourth film, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, came out I was ecstatic to finally see a new Indiana Jones film in the theater. I know that it's a divisive film to some but to me I love that fourth film, it's right up there with the original 3 with how it makes me feel, the joy of sitting back and experiencing the fun and excitement of an Indiana Jones adventure. This is all to say that when this fifth film, Dial of Destiny was announced I was excited. To me, who thought there would not be another film, a new Indiana Jones movie is a special treat that I hoped would bring me back to the same feelings I had watching the other films. So, this new movie, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. How is it?


It’s good. Fun and emotionally satisfying, but above all it IS an Indiana Jones movie. The film is not better than Raiders of the Lost Ark, nor is it better than The Last Crusade. In my opinion this film does not attempt to outshine the films that came before it, instead what director James Mangold has done is crafted an Indiana Jones film that fits right next to the others. Each Indiana Jones film is different, with each one approaching it’s story and themes in a unique way that sets each one apart from the others. Raiders is firmly an adventure film while Last Crusade weaves in a comedic tone with the relationship between father and son. What James has done here is to craft a film that does not tread on the others. There is a real problem in today's modern day Hollywood where sequels take the easy route of repeating the same beats and stories of the previous films. Ever since the announcement of Dial of Destiny there was always a worry at the back of my mind that the film would be nothing but callbacks and references to the past films, and while there are plenty of nods to the originals I am very happy to say that this film feels new and fresh, especially in the movie’s crazy 3rd act.


The film still has all the great elements of the Indiana Jones films, the villains are evil, ancient ruins with boobytraps that need to be solved, fun and exciting action chases, Indy punching Nazi’s, and an element of true history that helps to keep the fictional elements somewhat grounded. But here these ingredients are given a slight retooling, mostly due to Ford's age with which the film uses as a hook rather than a crutch. Here you can feel Indy’s struggle with being older, and the story revolves around the obstacles that come with a hero coming to terms with being in the twilight of his career. Ford plays the part perfectly, proving once again why he is the only one for this role. Although in this film he really lays on the “old man yells at clouds” energy and plays up the grumpy demeanor. There's more I could say on this but it would dive into spoiler territory so I will just say that Ford’s performance in this really helps the audience to understand Indy as a character more than any of the other films, with there being of plenty of times that he opens up allowing for an emotional core of the character to emerge. The new character Helena, played by Phoebe-Waller Bridge, is a fun new addition to the series. Here her character is essentially Indy’s character from Temple of Doom. A young archaeologist looking to make a big payout from finding and selling ancient lost relics. Her character contrasts nicely with the grizzled old Indiana who now has a much larger grasp on how precious life is, having long given up the “fortune and glory” days in pursuit of more meaningful relationships.


I would be amiss if I did not mention the score by the legendary John Williams. Williams once again crafts a wonderful musical accompaniment to the film. The Raiders March has never sounded better and hearing it triumphantly playing during the credits felt like I was wrapping myself in a warm blanket. During the opening prologue Williams re-uses several cues from the past films as a way to bring us back into the adventure of Jones, the scene taking place as a flashback. Hearing the familiar action motifs then contrasts nicely when the film skips to its present setting of 1969, allowing Williams to reshape the music to help convey the passage of time.


If I had any nitpicks for the film it would come down to the cinematography and editing. The 4 previous films were directed by Steven Spielberg, and while I love what James Mangold has done with the films, some of the action scenes could have used the Spielberg magic touch. Not saying any of the film’s sequences are bad, but Spielberg has a distinct visual flair with where he places and moves his cameras. Oftentimes this is used to convey several different plot or action beats in one shot. Mangold tries to do that but there are several moments that are more “traditionally” shot with the camera moving after the shot has finished. This loses the uninterrupted flow of Spielberg’s action scenes. Again, it's not bad, Mangold has filmed many incredible action movies, and this is one of them. But it’s like eating a sundae that's been prepared one certain way four times, then the next time you order it, it's using a different kind of nuts on top. It’s the same sundae, just prepared slightly differently. You could probably pick apart more in the film, but to me who loves to be caught up in the world of the film I tend to look past flaws for the sake of entertainment, and Dial of Destiny certainly held my attention. I would say if you didn't enjoy Crystal Skull or if you have trepidations about this one just check it out and you might be pleasantly surprised with the fun you may have.


Overall, the film is a solid piece of entertainment that brings an end to this very special film series. Could there be more films or spin-offs in the future? Sure, but with this being Ford’s swan song as this character I would prefer they just close the book with these great 5 films that have brought myself and countless others entertainment over decades and will continue to be entertaining for decades more.


Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 10/10
*As always, my review scores are based on a combination of film quality and enjoyment factor. Your results may vary.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I've seen it twice now. Non-spoiler review

Where do I even begin with my history with this franchise? Like a lot of people my connection with the Indiana Jones series goes back to before I can even recall. I don’t remember the first time my parents showed me Raiders of the Lost Ark, but from then on Raiders has been my favorite movie. To me it's the perfect blend of action and adventure and is the reason why I love movies. Those original 3 films were such a monumental aspect of my childhood and influence on my taste of entertainment. When the fourth film, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, came out I was ecstatic to finally see a new Indiana Jones film in the theater. I know that it's a divisive film to some but to me I love that fourth film, it's right up there with the original 3 with how it makes me feel, the joy of sitting back and experiencing the fun and excitement of an Indiana Jones adventure. This is all to say that when this fifth film, Dial of Destiny was announced I was excited. To me, who thought there would not be another film, a new Indiana Jones movie is a special treat that I hoped would bring me back to the same feelings I had watching the other films. So, this new movie, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. How is it?


It’s good. Fun and emotionally satisfying, but above all it IS an Indiana Jones movie. The film is not better than Raiders of the Lost Ark, nor is it better than The Last Crusade. In my opinion this film does not attempt to outshine the films that came before it, instead what director James Mangold has done is crafted an Indiana Jones film that fits right next to the others. Each Indiana Jones film is different, with each one approaching it’s story and themes in a unique way that sets each one apart from the others. Raiders is firmly an adventure film while Last Crusade weaves in a comedic tone with the relationship between father and son. What James has done here is to craft a film that does not tread on the others. There is a real problem in today's modern day Hollywood where sequels take the easy route of repeating the same beats and stories of the previous films. Ever since the announcement of Dial of Destiny there was always a worry at the back of my mind that the film would be nothing but callbacks and references to the past films, and while there are plenty of nods to the originals I am very happy to say that this film feels new and fresh, especially in the movie’s crazy 3rd act.


The film still has all the great elements of the Indiana Jones films, the villains are evil, ancient ruins with boobytraps that need to be solved, fun and exciting action chases, Indy punching Nazi’s, and an element of true history that helps to keep the fictional elements somewhat grounded. But here these ingredients are given a slight retooling, mostly due to Ford's age with which the film uses as a hook rather than a crutch. Here you can feel Indy’s struggle with being older, and the story revolves around the obstacles that come with a hero coming to terms with being in the twilight of his career. Ford plays the part perfectly, proving once again why he is the only one for this role. Although in this film he really lays on the “old man yells at clouds” energy and plays up the grumpy demeanor. There's more I could say on this but it would dive into spoiler territory so I will just say that Ford’s performance in this really helps the audience to understand Indy as a character more than any of the other films, with there being of plenty of times that he opens up allowing for an emotional core of the character to emerge. The new character Helena, played by Phoebe-Waller Bridge, is a fun new addition to the series. Here her character is essentially Indy’s character from Temple of Doom. A young archaeologist looking to make a big payout from finding and selling ancient lost relics. Her character contrasts nicely with the grizzled old Indiana who now has a much larger grasp on how precious life is, having long given up the “fortune and glory” days in pursuit of more meaningful relationships.


I would be amiss if I did not mention the score by the legendary John Williams. Williams once again crafts a wonderful musical accompaniment to the film. The Raiders March has never sounded better and hearing it triumphantly playing during the credits felt like I was wrapping myself in a warm blanket. During the opening prologue Williams re-uses several cues from the past films as a way to bring us back into the adventure of Jones, the scene taking place as a flashback. Hearing the familiar action motifs then contrasts nicely when the film skips to its present setting of 1969, allowing Williams to reshape the music to help convey the passage of time.


If I had any nitpicks for the film it would come down to the cinematography and editing. The 4 previous films were directed by Steven Spielberg, and while I love what James Mangold has done with the films, some of the action scenes could have used the Spielberg magic touch. Not saying any of the film’s sequences are bad, but Spielberg has a distinct visual flair with where he places and moves his cameras. Oftentimes this is used to convey several different plot or action beats in one shot. Mangold tries to do that but there are several moments that are more “traditionally” shot with the camera moving after the shot has finished. This loses the uninterrupted flow of Spielberg’s action scenes. Again, it's not bad, Mangold has filmed many incredible action movies, and this is one of them. But it’s like eating a sundae that's been prepared one certain way four times, then the next time you order it, it's using a different kind of nuts on top. It’s the same sundae, just prepared slightly differently. You could probably pick apart more in the film, but to me who loves to be caught up in the world of the film I tend to look past flaws for the sake of entertainment, and Dia of Destiny certainly held my attention. I would say if you didn't enjoy Crystal Skull or if you have trepidations about this one just check it out and you might be pleasantly surprised with the fun you may have.


Overall, the film is a solid piece of entertainment that brings an end to this very special film series. Could there be more films or spin-offs in the future? Sure, but with this being Ford’s swan song as this character I would prefer they just close the book with these great 5 films that have brought myself and countless others entertainment over decades and will continue to be entertaining for decades more.


Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 10/10
*As always, my review scores are based on a combination of film quality and enjoyment factor. Your results may vary.
Good grief…

Assuming I would agree with you…for intellectual purposes…isn’t the problem that Disney has destroyed the LFL fanbase?
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
Good grief…

Assuming I would agree with you…for intellectual purposes…isn’t the problem that Disney has destroyed the LFL fanbase?
Crazy part is, they did this in such a way that makes me think of frogs in a boiling pot. In just 10 years they watched as the studio tore apart what could have provided decades of material if they could have taken their heads out of their behinds. Sure "The Disney Star Wars Trilogy made tons of money" Did it though? The first film made a ton of money, surely bolstered by nostalgia. Heck, I visited the Magic Kingdom in 1977 and remember that visit most as the time I lost my Kenner die cast R2-D2 toy. So yeah, nostalgia a real thing to drive ticket sales, but by the 3rd movie, they were barely breaking even as the nostalgia wore out and the story telling was garbage. Rogue One was good, which makes sense as it had to fit into the Lucas story line. Solo though....ehhh. And please don't tell me that D+ is gaining millions of viewers to watch the mopeds on Boba Fett. The board of directors needs to fire everyone, starting with themselves as they let this all take place under their watch. Time to stop blaming the pandemic for everything.
I'm curious to see how the Hollywood Studios memory holes this Indy film. I wonder if they were hoping for a way to update the Stunt Spectacular, too bad you cannot have a spectacular CGI and de-aging show.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Crazy part is, they did this in such a way that makes me think of frogs in a boiling pot. In just 10 years they watched as the studio tore apart what could have provided decades of material if they could have taken their heads out of their behinds. Sure "The Disney Star Wars Trilogy made tons of money" Did it though? The first film made a ton of money, surely bolstered by nostalgia. Heck, I visited the Magic Kingdom in 1977 and remember that visit most as the time I lost my Kenner die cast R2-D2 toy. So yeah, nostalgia a real thing to drive ticket sales, but by the 3rd movie, they were barely breaking even as the nostalgia wore out and the story telling was garbage. Rogue One was good, which makes sense as it had to fit into the Lucas story line. Solo though....ehhh. And please don't tell me that D+ is gaining millions of viewers to watch the mopeds on Boba Fett. The board of directors needs to fire everyone, starting with themselves as they let this all take place under their watch. Time to stop blaming the pandemic for everything.
I'm curious to see how the Hollywood Studios memory holes this Indy film. I wonder if they were hoping for a way to update the Stunt Spectacular, too bad you cannot have a spectacular CGI and de-aging show.
I can assure you…through old friends (Might work at a place rhyming with “Tego”)…that the Disney “trilogy” was a tremendous loss in marketing/revenue potential…

Almost hard to wrap your brain around.

Good thing they bought the old stuff too…
George Shoulda kept it and laughed his butt off
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
I’m a Indy fan as well but I must be weird, I actually like KotCS.

The fridge part didn’t bother me, heck ToD has a priest sticking his hand into a dudes chest pulling out a beating heart. Ark of the Covenant and face melting in Raiders.

That said Mutt swinging through the jungle? Ugh.

For me my line in the sand is Dial but for a variety of reasons noted in the other thread.

The heart and Ark stuff is fine for me because it's fantasy. It's science fiction. It doesn't have to be realistic.

The fridge scene is bad because in the context of these movies Indy is a human being. That would have killed him. Not to mention that a nuclear bomb wouldn't choose one fridge out of an entire town to fling to safety.

Same in movies like Pirates of the Caribbean. Cursed pirates turning into skeletons is fine because it's fantasy. Jack Sparrow falling off a cliff and crashing through wooden planks is unrealistic because the fall would have injured him at minimum.

The modern era of CGI special effects has hurt these kind of movies IMO. The boat chase in Last Crusade was largely filmed practically. They were limited by what they could do and if felt grounded in reality, generally. They make that movie today it's all CGI with Indy leapfrogging from boat to boat.

The Fast and Furious movies have embraced this approach by turning into live action cartoons. It works for that franchise but for Indy I want the action to be a bit more realistic. That's my biggest knock against this final installment. I don't believe for a second that the chase scenes could exist in the real world.
 
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Trauma

Well-Known Member
Oh hey! That's the same guy with several videos that GotG Vol 3 was going to flop and did a jig that it had a big second week drop and never got around to saying that it made a profit and got good ratings.

[That's just going by his hyperbolic hair-on-fire thumnails, tho.]
I understand the attack the messenger bit is kinda your thing, I don’t know who this YouTuber is and your probably even right.

I don’t think this is the right thread to take a stand.

This movie is going to be a monumental failure and all the spin in the world isn’t going to fix it.

Disney is trouble, and for some reason you can’t see that.

As I have said before I respect your passion for the company. I will be here cheerleading it on with you as soon as Iger is gone.

Until then just watch it burn and maybe roast some s’mores.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I understand the attack the messenger bit is kinda your thing, I don’t know who this YouTuber is and your probably even right.

I don’t think this is the right thread to take a stand.

This movie is going to be a monumental failure and all the spin in the world isn’t going to fix it.

Disney is trouble, and for some reason you can’t see that.

As I have said before I respect your passion for the company. I will be here cheerleading it on with you as soon as Iger is gone.

Until then just watch it burn and maybe roast some s’mores.
These revolving movie threads make you look sane and me look reasonable…
This is not good for humanity 😬
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I've seen it twice now. Non-spoiler review

Where do I even begin with my history with this franchise? Like a lot of people my connection with the Indiana Jones series goes back to before I can even recall. I don’t remember the first time my parents showed me Raiders of the Lost Ark, but from then on Raiders has been my favorite movie. To me it's the perfect blend of action and adventure and is the reason why I love movies. Those original 3 films were such a monumental aspect of my childhood and influence on my taste of entertainment. When the fourth film, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, came out I was ecstatic to finally see a new Indiana Jones film in the theater. I know that it's a divisive film to some but to me I love that fourth film, it's right up there with the original 3 with how it makes me feel, the joy of sitting back and experiencing the fun and excitement of an Indiana Jones adventure. This is all to say that when this fifth film, Dial of Destiny was announced I was excited. To me, who thought there would not be another film, a new Indiana Jones movie is a special treat that I hoped would bring me back to the same feelings I had watching the other films. So, this new movie, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. How is it?


It’s good. Fun and emotionally satisfying, but above all it IS an Indiana Jones movie. The film is not better than Raiders of the Lost Ark, nor is it better than The Last Crusade. In my opinion this film does not attempt to outshine the films that came before it, instead what director James Mangold has done is crafted an Indiana Jones film that fits right next to the others. Each Indiana Jones film is different, with each one approaching it’s story and themes in a unique way that sets each one apart from the others. Raiders is firmly an adventure film while Last Crusade weaves in a comedic tone with the relationship between father and son. What James has done here is to craft a film that does not tread on the others. There is a real problem in today's modern day Hollywood where sequels take the easy route of repeating the same beats and stories of the previous films. Ever since the announcement of Dial of Destiny there was always a worry at the back of my mind that the film would be nothing but callbacks and references to the past films, and while there are plenty of nods to the originals I am very happy to say that this film feels new and fresh, especially in the movie’s crazy 3rd act.


The film still has all the great elements of the Indiana Jones films, the villains are evil, ancient ruins with boobytraps that need to be solved, fun and exciting action chases, Indy punching Nazi’s, and an element of true history that helps to keep the fictional elements somewhat grounded. But here these ingredients are given a slight retooling, mostly due to Ford's age with which the film uses as a hook rather than a crutch. Here you can feel Indy’s struggle with being older, and the story revolves around the obstacles that come with a hero coming to terms with being in the twilight of his career. Ford plays the part perfectly, proving once again why he is the only one for this role. Although in this film he really lays on the “old man yells at clouds” energy and plays up the grumpy demeanor. There's more I could say on this but it would dive into spoiler territory so I will just say that Ford’s performance in this really helps the audience to understand Indy as a character more than any of the other films, with there being of plenty of times that he opens up allowing for an emotional core of the character to emerge. The new character Helena, played by Phoebe-Waller Bridge, is a fun new addition to the series. Here her character is essentially Indy’s character from Temple of Doom. A young archaeologist looking to make a big payout from finding and selling ancient lost relics. Her character contrasts nicely with the grizzled old Indiana who now has a much larger grasp on how precious life is, having long given up the “fortune and glory” days in pursuit of more meaningful relationships.


I would be amiss if I did not mention the score by the legendary John Williams. Williams once again crafts a wonderful musical accompaniment to the film. The Raiders March has never sounded better and hearing it triumphantly playing during the credits felt like I was wrapping myself in a warm blanket. During the opening prologue Williams re-uses several cues from the past films as a way to bring us back into the adventure of Jones, the scene taking place as a flashback. Hearing the familiar action motifs then contrasts nicely when the film skips to its present setting of 1969, allowing Williams to reshape the music to help convey the passage of time.


If I had any nitpicks for the film it would come down to the cinematography and editing. The 4 previous films were directed by Steven Spielberg, and while I love what James Mangold has done with the films, some of the action scenes could have used the Spielberg magic touch. Not saying any of the film’s sequences are bad, but Spielberg has a distinct visual flair with where he places and moves his cameras. Oftentimes this is used to convey several different plot or action beats in one shot. Mangold tries to do that but there are several moments that are more “traditionally” shot with the camera moving after the shot has finished. This loses the uninterrupted flow of Spielberg’s action scenes. Again, it's not bad, Mangold has filmed many incredible action movies, and this is one of them. But it’s like eating a sundae that's been prepared one certain way four times, then the next time you order it, it's using a different kind of nuts on top. It’s the same sundae, just prepared slightly differently. You could probably pick apart more in the film, but to me who loves to be caught up in the world of the film I tend to look past flaws for the sake of entertainment, and Dia of Destiny certainly held my attention. I would say if you didn't enjoy Crystal Skull or if you have trepidations about this one just check it out and you might be pleasantly surprised with the fun you may have.


Overall, the film is a solid piece of entertainment that brings an end to this very special film series. Could there be more films or spin-offs in the future? Sure, but with this being Ford’s swan song as this character I would prefer they just close the book with these great 5 films that have brought myself and countless others entertainment over decades and will continue to be entertaining for decades more.


Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny review: 10/10
*As always, my review scores are based on a combination of film quality and enjoyment factor. Your results may vary.

Thank you for this great write up and spoiler free review.
I am seeing the film tomorrow and i am now looking forward to it even more !
:)

-
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Gee, I liked a movie. Sorry that is such an offense to you. :rolleyes:
It’s not…

But 10/10 is stretching it.

Even the Hollywood reporter and variety aren’t lying for Disney to THAT level…and they’re paid to do just that.

I’m gonna see it though…maybe later today. Hope I can find a seat? 😐
 

Movielover

Well-Known Member
It’s not…

But 10/10 is stretching it.

Even the Hollywood reporter and variety aren’t lying for Disney to THAT level…and they’re paid to do just that.

I’m gonna see it though…maybe later today. Hope I can find a seat? 😐
Yeah, that's why I have this...

"*As always, my review scores are based on a combination of film quality and enjoyment factor. Your results may vary."

Underneath my score. I judge and score movies based on their quality AND how I feel while watching them. If it has kept me engaged and entertained (you know, the whole point of a movie in the first place) I give it a higher score. This is my score based on my opinion. If that upsets you, then that's okay because I don't care about your opinion or feelings.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
It’s not…

But 10/10 is stretching it.

Even the Hollywood reporter and variety aren’t lying for Disney to THAT level…and they’re paid to do just that.

I’m gonna see it though…maybe later today. Hope I can find a seat? 😐
Wow… so Hollywood reporter and Variety are unreliable sources and random YouTubers are fact based… this thread is something else
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
Wow… so Hollywood reporter and Variety are unreliable sources and random YouTubers are fact based… this thread is something else
Not going to speak for @Sirwalterraleigh , however, I will say that independent news, wherever you may find it, is likely more reliable than Variety or THR. As long as the news outlet you prefer sites its sources.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
Yeah, that's why I have this...

"*As always, my review scores are based on a combination of film quality and enjoyment factor. Your results may vary."

Underneath my score. I judge and score movies based on their quality AND how I feel while watching them. If it has kept me engaged and entertained (you know, the whole point of a movie in the first place) I give it a higher score. This is my score based on my opinion. If that upsets you, then that's okay because I don't care about your opinion or feelings.

But your 10/10 rating is less valid than the rating of someone who *checks notes* hasn't seen the movie apparently...

If people are going to gatekeep what the rating of a movie is, they ought to at least see it first.

So pathetic.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Wow… so Hollywood reporter and Variety are unreliable sources and random YouTubers are fact based… this thread is something else
They’re noted Disney PR “outlets”

Membership has its privileges.

Member when Chrissy got canned?
I’ll refresh.

“Retiring for health”
She called the WSJ and disputed it…
“Response” shows in THR.

Funny…


As far as YouTubers go…never watch it…don’t care…doesn’t matter.

What matters is the financial and legacy performance of a franchise Disney paid Bout a BILLION for and the studio blew it on budget as well.

That’s it.

But let’s debate YouTubers? Let’s all inhale the “smoke” as we dance around the “fire”
 
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