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Sped2424

Sped2424

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Progress.City said:
I said that nothing we know of about MK, but it is billions for the others combined. DHS has a budget alone in the billions. $800 million is going into DAK (including Avatar). Don't know what EPCOT's budget is yet.
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Again you're ignoring how the budget is being spent at DHS it's over a long period of time. It's great but it's a bit inaccurate to say billions are being spent across the parks. DHS I'd give you, but epcot not so much, and MK I can guarantee you that in the next 3 years Nothing will be announced or even rumored about new attractions for the MK. As I said nighttime show yeah, but nothing beyond that. If there were some serious investment like you are saying of billions around all 4 parks things would be looking quite different right now.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Endor Sightseer said:
Worst. Attraction. Ever.

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Nope.

This was.

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Progress.City

Progress.City

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Sped2424 said:
You insinuated that it could be back on the table which as I originally said, not happening now, not happening ever.
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Sorry, that's not what I meant.

Originally, there were going to be two NextGen projects. The one that didn't get built was property-wide transit, which (I'm guessing) included light rail and monorail expansion. That project never left the planning phase because the NexGen project that did get built used up all the funds. When I say "replacement project", I mean a project with the same goals in mind. The goal of the other one was to provide transportation property wide by using systems other than buses. I'm not saying that they won't expand the monorail or that they will. What I'm saying is that, if they revisit the goals of this project, it will be to deploy a property-wide system of whatever is best deemed suitable at the time. This could be light rail, bus rapid transit, or (my favorite) SkyTran. The need to fix the parks is greater right now, so it won't be until after that is done before they even think about revisiting the goals of that project.
 
Progress.City

Progress.City

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Sped2424 said:
Again you're ignoring how the budget is being spent at DHS it's over a long period of time. It's great but it's a bit inaccurate to say billions are being spent across the parks. DHS I'd give you, but epcot not so much, and MK I can guarantee you that in the next 3 years Nothing will be announced or even rumored about new attractions for the MK. As I said nighttime show yeah, but nothing beyond that. If there were some serious investment like you are saying of billions around all 4 parks things would be looking quite different right now.
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The word is "billions across the parks". I have read this by multiple sources, including here. The sum of all parks total is in the billions. DHS alone is in the billions. $800 million is budgeted for DAK. Money is being spent over at EPCOT, too, but we have no idea how much.

It's billions between the parks, not that every park is getting a peice of the pie. They already spent a half billion on MK, so I wouldn't count on anything new going in there other than ride upgrades.
 
FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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Bing Bong said:
I know this sounds terrible but I actually preferred JIYI to the current version...
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Sped2424 said:
I get that. Better to have no figment that a half hearted attempt at a story featuring him.
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I've always seen the current version as a continuation of JIYI and the pavilion's history as a sort of meta-story. He hated the second ride just as much as everyone else did and has decided to make Eric Idle's life suffering and we just get caught in the crossfire of his passive-aggressive Looney Tunes rampage.
 
prberk

prberk

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Bing Bong said:
If they were to properly fix the Imagination pavilion, I would be able to forgive so much that's wrong about WDW resort... It is one of the single biggest mistakes made in Disney Theme Park history.
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Three things that were there but I never got to see when I was younger and visiting WDW:
  • River Country
  • Discovery Island (the original, not the "homage to it" at AK)
  • Journey Into Imagination original ride.
I regret that I never got to experience either of these three attractions. At the time my parents were not much interested in doing things beyond the parks, and EPCOT was not my mother's favorite -- so time was limited there.

But older I had hoped to go to RC or Discovery Island, but never made it, I guess thinking that they would be there anytime (and I was usually with friends who were newbies and had to hit the "must-sees"). And by the time I saw JII, it was the "new" versions.

Anyway, I really regret that I never got these experiences, the first two in part because the slower-paced experiences of WDW (and less popular) have quickly become my favorites, and the third because it is clear how amazingly-well-done JII was .

It would be nice if they either restored the original and in some way did it one better.
 
HDS

HDS

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Thanks RayTheFirefly. I think people forget this is the rumor forum. Not all rumors can come from well known spies, insiders, forum rock stars etc. If people don't post, the site has no content.
The only reason I posted what I was told was because it came from a vendor, one that has no reason to lie or tell fancy fables to park guests, very out of left field for a comic vendor. A vendor who has customers who want something that has been pushed back two times. Once in December 2014 and again in March 2015.

The original push back dates.. Wasn't JII to close December 2014? Cant remember.
 
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gljvd

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MK had a big addition with fantasy land expansion , AK is currently getting one with avatar land , HS is supposed to get starwars so it would make sense that something is coming down the pipe for Epcot more so than frozen
 
FerretAfros

FerretAfros

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marni1971 said:
Nope.

This was.

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I think I might be the only person who actually liked version 2.0

No, it wasn't nearly as good as the original, but at least it had a clear through-story that made sense with its own internal logic. The "brain scanner" bookends did a good job of explaining the ride's premise (and the finale made a whole heck of a lot more sense), and the scenes in between actually featured some semi-interesting and believable effects. It also embraced the Imagination Institute idea that was created with HISTA, which led to a fairly cohesive pavilion. I actually left the ride wondering how they'd done some of the tricks, and thinking (the horror!) about some of the concepts that it presented. It wasn't perfect, nor was it as good as the original, but it worked for me

It seems like the current version removed all of the interesting effects from 2.0, kept the lame ones, ripped out the through-line, and inserted a really annoying version of Figment. The only way that a guest can make sense of what's going on is if they understand the ride's history and know that Figment came from the first version, and the open house tour concept came from the second; it just doesn't make any sense (or have any enjoyable effects) on its own
 
JWG

JWG

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marni1971 said:
Eisner came off v2 fuming. The unload CMs didn't want to say "its your fault"

Funnily they were also struggling to keep the RCS up not 30 minutes before he arrived too.
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For all the crap Eisner gets. I appreciated some of his thoughts on the parks. I loved the original Alien Encounter (Stitch is just dumb, and when I was on it last month half the effects didn't work) that he approved prior to crazy parents. And, him not liking 2.0 wasn't a bad thing in my mind. Now, why it was 2.0 may be a different conversation.
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
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JWG said:
For all the **** Eisner gets. I appreciated some of his thoughts on the parks. I loved the original Alien Encounter (Stitch is just dumb, and when I was on it last month half the effects didn't work) that he approved prior to crazy parents.
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The original Alien Encounter? He's the one who had the original rewritten to be scarier.

Not to mention to make it flow better. The original was so pedestrian.
 
heath.sneyd

heath.sneyd

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Back to the OP's topic, and initial subsequent conversation, don't expect any huge MARVEL in-park attractions until the contract with Universal and IOA expires, unless the Disney contract has an override. Find a date on that, and you're probably going somewhere.

Tomorrowland is a very good idea/guess, but why would Marvel be involved? (Enlighten me if I'm wrong on that one.)
Progress.City said:
Sorry, that's not what I meant.

Originally, there were going to be two NextGen projects. The one that didn't get built was property-wide transit, which (I'm guessing) included light rail and monorail expansion. That project never left the planning phase because the NexGen project that did get built used up all the funds. When I say "replacement project", I mean a project with the same goals in mind. The goal of the other one was to provide transportation property wide by using systems other than buses. I'm not saying that they won't expand the monorail or that they will. What I'm saying is that, if they revisit the goals of this project, it will be to deploy a property-wide system of whatever is best deemed suitable at the time. This could be light rail, bus rapid transit, or (my favorite) SkyTran. The need to fix the parks is greater right now, so it won't be until after that is done before they even think about revisiting the goals of that project.
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Oh dear Lord Jesus Christ in the sky, don't get the battle of the buses started again. Find the recent thread on bus wraps in WDW to see what I mean there. Bus + Wraps + Advertisement - Logic - Common Sense = That thread. I gave up on READING it. A reply to it would have caused a total meltdown which would eradicate the BAH in mere seconds.
 

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