Iger mentions plans for EPCOT

Omnispace

Well-Known Member
The future is happening too fast. Anything they could have possibly be imagined 15 years ago is coming to pass. These changes are becoming more profound and nobody can accurately see even 5 years from now. NASA just announced a new propulsion system. They are not even sure how it works, only that it does. The EPCOT Future World is no longer viable. IP E-Ticket Land is financially and creatively viable though.

I think SW or Marvel would work best. Possibly 1 pavilion at a time. Or 1 side of the park and then the other. IDK.

Not sure if you are being serious. There already is an E-Ticket IP land and it's called Universal. The concept works because that is how Universal's parks evolved -- as a movie industry park that showcases their IP's.

Disney's venture into theme parks was never about IP except in some rare cases where the fit was obvious, such as Swiss Family Tree House, (and even then is was more about enjoying the environment of the tree house than pushing the plot points of the movie). Disney was always about the Classics, (and yes there can be contemporary classics), with a focus on layered storytelling and immersive environments -- not just a quick thrill.

Even though the ticket (coupon) system in the parks was retired before Epcot Center opened, there are many would would say that the major attractions there exceeded the E-Ticket level of quality and experience.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Not sure if you are being serious. There already is an E-Ticket IP land and it's called Universal. The concept works because that is how Universal's parks evolved -- as a movie industry park that showcases their IP's.

Disney's venture into theme parks was never about IP except in some rare cases where the fit was obvious, such as Swiss Family Tree House, (and even then is was more about enjoying the environment of the tree house than pushing the plot points of the movie). Disney was always about the Classics, (and yes there can be contemporary classics), with a focus on layered storytelling and immersive environments -- not just a quick thrill.

Even though the ticket (coupon) system in the parks was retired before Epcot Center opened, there are many would would say that the major attractions there exceeded the E-Ticket level of quality and experience.

Remember you are talking to the same person who thinks Splash Mountain should be re-themed.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Remember you are talking to the same person who thinks Splash Mountain should be re-themed.

He's also the guy who said these things:

Universal is NOT going to promote a Disney property. And once the Universal folks get over their hangovers they will start conceptualizing. Or making plans to sell the place.

You know as this sinks into my mind so much more is starting to make sense about what has been posted to this forum by the doomers. :cool:

If you are a fan of WDW this is a day to celebrate. :sohappy:

Wrong. Disney won't have to try to force Uni to retheme it's attractions. Uni will WANT to.

And the sour grapes after all the "potter will teach Disney a lesson" talk is really not a good point. The doomers won't use that tact at all.

10 days to the truth.

Yes, I still remember when you swore up and down that Sony wouldn't reboot the Spider-man movie franchise and Universal would beg Disney to take the Marvel theme park rights off their hands. It's been seven years and you're still wrong.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
He's also the guy who said these things:





Yes, I still remember when you swore up and down that Sony wouldn't reboot the Spider-man movie franchise and Universal would beg Disney to take the Marvel theme park rights off their hands. It's been seven years and you're still wrong.

No doubt you have heard Spidey is in Civil War by now, correct?

And Uni had there chance it seems. Now the door may be closed. Never thought they could be that obtuse. They really should hire me as an advisor.

The gloves are off. So saith the mouse.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
No doubt you have heard Spidey is in Civil War by now, correct?

And Uni had there chance it seems. Now the door may be closed. Never thought they could be that obtuse. They really should hire me as an advisor.

The gloves are off. So saith the mouse.

Yes, Spidey is in Civil War. Because Sony did not give up the rights as you insisted they would. They did reboot the franchise contrary to your numerous predictions that they would not. They even made a sequel and planned several spin-offs. Even after they collapsed the franchise, Sony still clung to the rights just as I said they would. And if anyone at Sony had any idea how to make a decent Spider-man movie, they would have told Marvel to stuff their partnership.

So that really doesn't help you case one bit. But thanks for playing.

Something tells me that if anyone at Universal was brain damaged enough to give the Marvel rights back to Disney, Disney would fall all over themselves to get them back. It didn't happen because it was an idiotic suggestion and if Universal ever did it they would be sued by their shareholders for mismanaging their assets.

I had higher hopes back in 2009 that there would come a point in the future where you would be mature enough to just admit you were wrong. Still waiting. Maybe in 2019?
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
I think SW or Marvel would work best. Possibly 1 pavilion at a time. Or 1 side of the park and then the other. IDK.

The only thing true in this sentence are the least three letters. No, you don't know, you truly have no clue what you're talking about. You don't visit WDW and you certainly aren't the font of all knowledge that you so smugly portray yourself as. You're either completely deslusional or you're a troll. Perhaps you're a strange amalgamation of the two. But you clearly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes WDW.

I'm sure you'll keep posting nonsense because it gets you the attention you seem to crave but the reality is that all your "good" ideas could quite comfortably fit on the back of a postage stamp and leave plenty of room to spare.

Acutally go to WDW and get a clue, no one here takes you or your shtick seriously.
 

Wikkler

Well-Known Member
EPCOT Center looked - and still could - futuristic.

But there was a whole lot more to it. If you want to comment like that apply it to Tomorrowland circa 1993.
Simple shapes, dull colors, and glass worked amazingly for the original EPCOT, and maybe a different "color" for each pavilion. The color motif for Imagination was purple. Seas' could be blue. Land's could be green. Space's could be black or silver.
Kind of gave it away when your avatar is Kraftwerk. I love them too. Long live Florian and Ralf!
Excuse me while I scream giddily and try to figure out how to put in a Computer World pavilion.
And the Universe of Energy premise may have been wrong all along....

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...headed-for-extinction-before-the-asteroid-hit
What is the purpose of posting these articles?
Not sure if you are being serious. There already is an E-Ticket IP land and it's called Universal. The concept works because that is how Universal's parks evolved -- as a movie industry park that showcases their IP's.

Disney's venture into theme parks was never about IP except in some rare cases where the fit was obvious, such as Swiss Family Tree House, (and even then is was more about enjoying the environment of the tree house than pushing the plot points of the movie). Disney was always about the Classics, (and yes there can be contemporary classics), with a focus on layered storytelling and immersive environments -- not just a quick thrill.

Even though the ticket (coupon) system in the parks was retired before Epcot Center opened, there are many would would say that the major attractions there exceeded the E-Ticket level of quality and experience.
F-Ticket doesn't sound pleasant to the ears, though, does it? ;)
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
From a pure business perspective I never understood how anyone would think it would be a good decision for Uni to give up the Marvel rights. Universal is heavily dependent on outside IPs. If they were to replace Marvel they would likely have to pay at least twice as much for an IP that was half as popular.
 

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