There's a good example of an answer jt.
It's been time to reimagine - properly, not half assed - for 20 years.
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Iger mentions plans for EPCOT
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There's a good example of an answer jt.
It's been time to reimagine - properly, not half assed - for 20 years.
OvertheHorizon
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I love the energy expressed by so many of the posts in this thread! I hope they're paying attention at WDI and Disney corporate leadership. FYI, Disney folks, I'm a stockholder. 
"If we can dream it, then we can do it," summarizes for me what the original FUTURE WORLD was all about. I liked the suggestion of re-imagining it as DISCOVERY WORLD (since "future" dates itself too fast). In my opinion, a NEW pavilion - like the original Horizons - is necessary to articulate the overarching theme of a newly imagined DISCOVERY WORLD.
In an era when Disney is unlikely to convince corporations to cough up millions in sponsorship, I agree with those that say using IP in various pavilions is not - in itself - the problem. If a cartoon character can help convey the message in a memorable way for young people, so much the better. Let them tell a particular story of discovery (Energy, Imagination, Technology, etc.) rather than repeating their own classic cartoon story.
One of the wonderful things about WALT DISNEY WORLD is the fact that it contains four different parks. Each park has its own place in providing a wonderful vacation experience for its visitors. Epcot always felt unique, and I'm hearing others (and myself) say that we don't want it to lose that special role.
"If we can dream it, then we can do it," summarizes for me what the original FUTURE WORLD was all about. I liked the suggestion of re-imagining it as DISCOVERY WORLD (since "future" dates itself too fast). In my opinion, a NEW pavilion - like the original Horizons - is necessary to articulate the overarching theme of a newly imagined DISCOVERY WORLD.
In an era when Disney is unlikely to convince corporations to cough up millions in sponsorship, I agree with those that say using IP in various pavilions is not - in itself - the problem. If a cartoon character can help convey the message in a memorable way for young people, so much the better. Let them tell a particular story of discovery (Energy, Imagination, Technology, etc.) rather than repeating their own classic cartoon story.
One of the wonderful things about WALT DISNEY WORLD is the fact that it contains four different parks. Each park has its own place in providing a wonderful vacation experience for its visitors. Epcot always felt unique, and I'm hearing others (and myself) say that we don't want it to lose that special role.
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hpyhnt 1000
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Exactly. Any theme park that doesn't see meaningful updates and investments is going to stagnate, no matter what the theme. DHS isn't based on the future and yet here it is in dire need of expansions.
Epcot's problem isn't its theme; it's the utter lack of investment mixed with a big dose of Disney not giving a #### for the last 20 years.
jt04
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The future is happening too fast. Anything they could have possibly be imagined 15 years ago is coming to pass. These changes are becoming more profound and nobody can accurately see even 5 years from now. NASA just announced a new propulsion system. They are not even sure how it works, only that it does. The EPCOT Future World is no longer viable. IP E-Ticket Land is financially and creatively viable though.
I think SW or Marvel would work best. Possibly 1 pavilion at a time. Or 1 side of the park and then the other. IDK.
raven
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I listened to that same shareholders meeting live when it was on the internet. Iger did not say they have plans for Epcot. He said they are looking into plans for the future of Epcot. Those are two completely different things so don't get your hopes up for another 10 years.
zooey
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Epcot future world should be about the past present and future of futurism itself. I think this would allow some IP mixed with original concepts and traditional theming as well as educational opportunities. Seas becomes Jules Verne style, imagination becomes figment and dream finder, the land remains mostly the same, spaceship earth the same, energy gets overhauled to be about green energy and what cities could be like if based around renewable energy. Test track stays the same but add automotive future with renewable energy and self driving cars tech, mission space stays the same but adds pavilion about space history and future with Mars exploration (and a healthy dose of Neil degrasse Tyson). Innoventions are tech displays and promotions with sponsors. Add a people mover around the whole thing and you got a relevant park again.
As for tone, one word: optimism.
Okay armchair imagineering done...
As for tone, one word: optimism.
Okay armchair imagineering done...
jt04
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And the Universe of Energy premise may have been wrong all along....
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...headed-for-extinction-before-the-asteroid-hit
FigmentForver96
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You still are commpletley missing the poin, or you are doing it deliberately. Epcot is MORE than just future technology. It's about educating people about the past so we can prepare for the future, it's about inspiring young and old to learn and discover new things, and to help us understand how we all are connected. The mere fact that you would even use IP E-Ticket land as a phrase shows you have absolutely no clue on what you are talking about. And Marvel? What Guardians of the Galaxy in Epcot, please. Or are you under some magical influence that your hero Iger is going to crush Universal and make them give up the rights?
FigmentJedi
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It's a more complicated situation then that title suggests. I mean, you had groups like sauropods having trouble and mostly being reduced to South American ranges, but you had the ceratopsids and hadrosaurs being very successful.
But it is correct that it's more then just the meteor that took them out. A group of supervolcanoes in India called the Deccan Traps were also pretty active towards the end of the Cretaceous and between them and the meteor strike, it was pretty much a one-two punch to knock the dinos out.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Id re-imagine him with a baseball bat.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
JT doesn't even visit the parks, why would you expect him to have any clue about how they should be themed.
Come back when you understand.
FigmentForver96
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I'm trying to help the guy learn.
jt04
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You're so full of Scottish porridge your brain is sputtering.
jt04
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I'm trying to help the guy learn.
You will some day see the reality of the situation. GOTG would be excellent in M:S. IMO.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Imagine having to resort to racial stereotyping. Stick to keeping your palm hairy.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
I'm trying to help the guy learn.
Your wasting your time.
He'll literally see changes at WDW long before you would. The more things change and all that....