Hurricane Irma

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Welp looks like my family is insisting on staying in South Florida (Weston in particular) during the storm. I don't understand their mindset when they have 2 homes to evacuate to here in Atlanta and friends throughout the state but what can you do.

Weston should be ok!!! I think they'll see many visitors coming their way. I agree with you though, I'd rather leave. Good luck to them!
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
This is such a small part of the mandatory zones.. (Ft Lauderdale area)

My heart goes out to anyone who is driving north. I can't imagine the amount of people on the highways right now.
I hope the structures in these photos still exist next week.

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baymenxpac

Well-Known Member
You do understand that for many people their vacations get locked in through their employers months in advance, and for many that cant simply push it back two months? Theres no guarantee this will even hit the Orlando area so telling people to stay away at this moment is wrong. People should continue to keep an eye on this and treat it very seriously and we will all have more information come Friday. Please get off your high horse. Thanks!

nah, dude. sorry, but if you have to take vacation time because your employer is a jackwaggon and won't let you reschedule, then it's time for a staycation.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Thank you!

I know in the past they have been safe but Weston is really only 20 miles off the coast so thats not very far inland.

I think people are just scared to leave at this point. The traffic is just too bad. So those a little farther west are staying. This seems to be what I'm hearing from people.
I can't say that I totally blame them, but in a perfect scenario all 6,000,000+ residents could get out! Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible.
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
They're all under mandatory evac, but that's nothing new, these zones always get placed under evac., Zone A pretty much every time and B is typically voluntary depending on the strength of the storm, sometimes mandatory.

Most times people still stay. Supposedly they're "safe" up to a certain wind strength, that's why I stayed in mine during Wilma as opposed to evacuating, and I actually evacuated to a high rise in North Miami for Jeanne...also zone A mandatory evac zone, but I felt it would be more safe than staying in mine in PBC.
Many people learned after those 2 storms, and Katrina, that evacuation is much better than staying.

With this particular storm, no one knows if even the new high rises could withstand the wind. Officials are saying that they won't.
I think this is one time where residents, even stubborn South Floridians, are taking it seriously.
What happens to the building structures themselves? Flooding? Wind damage? Blow over?
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
What happens to the building structures themselves? Flooding? Wind damage? Blow over?

There hasn't been a storm this strong since Andrew.. all buildings were revised since then.

Yes, obviously flooding around if you live between the intracoastal and the ocean, but that wouldn't impact the higher units, it would just make it impossible to leave. Wind damage- yes. Debris damage- yes. Blow over- most likely not.
 

baymenxpac

Well-Known Member
Or time for a new job, that's just not right if they can't be flexible enough to reschedule.

i mean, i get that many can't afford to be that picky. a lot of americans (thankfully, not me) work for jerks or overbearing corporations. it's the rule, not the exception.

and i'm sure that after all the hard work of scheduling and planning a WDW trip, coupled with the year-plus-long anticipation, the idea of canceling or rescheduling that trip seems painstaking.

however
, this storm is no joke. anecdotally, i live on long island and after sandy, we didn't have power in my town for anywhere from five-to-14 days depending on what part of town you lived in. life basically grinded to a halt. and that's a storm where wind gusts were at 90 mph, not 175.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
What happens to the building structures themselves? Flooding? Wind damage? Blow over?
It depends. Flooding is the most common thing followed by roof damage. Properly constructed roofs coming completely apart is rare but does happen. All it takes is a breach in the building envelope and even the best construction will start to pull apart.
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
There hasn't been a storm this strong since Andrew.. all buildings were revised since then.

Yes, obviously flooding around if you live between the intracoastal and the ocean, but that wouldn't impact the higher units, it would just make it impossible to leave. Wind damage- yes. Debris damage- yes. Blow over- most likely not.
I've lived in Florida 11 years and this is the first one I think will actually impact the state to a serious degree, so I have no idea what to expect o_O
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
And those in the southeast parts of Georgia and SC need to start preparing as well, if they haven't already. I know the SC governor has already declared a state of emergency for some counties on the coast, but Irma looks to be taking aim at a large portion of the SC coast.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
It depends. Flooding is the most common thing followed by roof damage. Properly constructed roofs coming completely apart is rare but does happen. All it takes is a breach in the building envelope and even the best construction will start to pull apart.

Are you worried about the cranes? There's so much construction right now, if a crane hit a building could it compromise the entire structure?

Basically, what is the worst case scenario for all of the high rises? In the past it's mostly been windows and exterior damage.
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
Premium Member
What happens to the building structures themselves? Flooding? Wind damage? Blow over?

Flooding, wind damage. But I don't ever remember reading that a high rise along the coast was actually blown over. The pylons supporting the structure are probably at least 10 feet in the ground.

@Master Yoda, can you confirm?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Not sure if this was mentioned, but Delta has added flights out of Florida (not sure if others have as well, that just showed up in my search results) and they and other airlines have begun capping fares to avoid (some really, really) bad PR.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
What is a typical high rise outlook for this type of storm?
The reason their is not a Category 6 is because the scale is tied to potential destruction of property and Category 5 is the limits of what can be built. South Florida around Miami is in what the Florida Building Code calls the High Velocity Hurricane Zone and special Miami-Dade testing is required of building products used in this area. Despite those extra requirements, this storm is exceeding those limits so no one can really know what will happen.
 

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