Tower cranes in Florida a required to withstand min Cat 4 Storms wind gusts. They're worried in Miami about the cranes collapsing due to the 150MPH + gusts.
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Hurricane Irma
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Tower cranes in Florida a required to withstand min Cat 4 Storms wind gusts. They're worried in Miami about the cranes collapsing due to the 150MPH + gusts.
She needs to stop being a pill and listen...
durangojim
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Thank you!
For all you social justice warriors like @Bocabear and @monothingie out there trying to portray me as a bad guy, please enlighten me how you are helping the people in Florida right now. I'll check back later after I've cared for some of my patients.
To be honest in the 12 years I've been a member of this forum I've never experienced this kind of thing but I should have expected the trolls to come out eventually. Pretty sad.
disneygeek90
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Wow they absolutely are. I just snagged a FoP FP for next Thursday evening. Multiple times available.
21stamps
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All gas stations are out in Key West. I have one friend left there, she's waiting on a gas truck and hoping to fill a few gas cans as well.
Another friend reported that traffic out of the Keys is not as bad today, but you're at a standstill when hit Miami. Hopefully the tanks keep coming to replenish the fuel.
Bill Nelson is asking FEMA to help get gas South. The service stations on the Turnpike are allowing motorists to fill their cars only.
21stamps
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I'm hoping that the gas stations in the Keys will allow people to at least do one can. They'll most likely need it.
Her family is evacuating to Boca Raton.
Things are so crazy, people evacuating to Miami, Broward, PBC, Tampa, Orlando.
People also evacuating from Miami, Broward, PBC. It all depends on how far south you live.
matt9112
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going counter flow (all lanes one direction) requires a massive amount of manpower (close ramps ect) and like you said prevents help from going in and thus is the LAST RESORT as in hurricane is right behind people and it's still grid lock resort. they turn the breakdown lanes into travel lanes as a first relief measure.
matt9112
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and river journey for what's it's worth is open across board.
disneygeek90
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Took my friend 10 hours to get from Ft Lauderdale to Gainesville last night. Left at 4:45pm arrived at 2:30am. Crazy traffic.
Thanks, Mom!
My fear is that what happened in 2004 will happen again...with a much more powerful storm. How many people have moved to Florida since 2005? 3. 4, 5 million? And if the blasted thing makes a turn eastward, then you're going to see Tampa, Clearwater and St. Pete streaming to 75. I've been on 75 many times when it's turned into a parking lot due to an accident. I can't imagine what this will be like.
SJW LOL. Get off your soapbox. You're the one who wrote the post. Maybe you should have worded it better and then it wouldn't have been questioned.
21stamps
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My fear is that what happened in 2004 will happen again...with a much more powerful storm. How many people have moved to Florida since 2005? 3. 4, 5 million? And if the blasted thing makes a turn eastward, then you're going to see Tampa, Clearwater and St. Pete streaming to 75. I've been on 75 many times when it's turned into a parking lot due to an accident. I can't imagine what this will be like.
If you just think about the current evac zones- the Keys and A and B in most of SoFla,
Zones A and B are full of huge high rises up and down the coast, houses too, but hundreds of high rises.
I have no clue what that number of people would be, but it has to be several hundred thousand...if not at least 1 million or more.
Combine that with all of the people who are voluntarily evacuating, I can't even imagine.
ETA- this is ONLY one part of Miami, and only a portion of evacuees.
The U.S. city of Miami, Florida has the country's third-tallest skyline with over 300 high-rises, 70 of which stand taller than 400 feet (120 m), mainly according to Emporis,[1]SkyscraperPage, and The Skyscraper Center, which is the online database of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat. The tallest building in the city is the 84-story Panorama Tower, which rises 868 feet (265 m) in Miami's Brickell district and on March 24, 2017 surpassed all other buildings in height. It is to be completed by the end of 2017. Eight of the ten tallest buildings in Florida are located in Miami. By 2020 there will be 10 more buildings in Florida with more than 65 stories each.
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disneygeek90
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What is a typical high rise outlook for this type of storm?
prberk
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I was thinking that maybe vacationers who can be flexible should do that, to free up the Central Florida hotel rooms for those evacuees who need them for more than a vacation. My thoughts, anyway.
rael ramone
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I've never been through a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane, but I've had big storms where I am...
Everyone down there needs to get to where they need to be before this thing hits...
If you have a job that requires you to be somewhere regardless of weather (or because of weather) if at all possible bunker down there beforehand w/ an air mattress or sleeping bag.... it's much better then trying to commute in a terrible storm...
Everyone down there needs to get to where they need to be before this thing hits...
If you have a job that requires you to be somewhere regardless of weather (or because of weather) if at all possible bunker down there beforehand w/ an air mattress or sleeping bag.... it's much better then trying to commute in a terrible storm...
21stamps
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They're all under mandatory evac, but that's nothing new, these zones always get placed under evac., Zone A pretty much every time and B is typically voluntary depending on the strength of the storm, sometimes mandatory.
Most times people still stay. Supposedly they're "safe" up to a certain wind strength, that's why I stayed in mine during Wilma as opposed to evacuating, and I actually evacuated to a high rise in North Miami for Jeanne...also zone A mandatory evac zone, but I felt it would be more safe than staying in mine in PBC.
Many people learned after those 2 storms, and Katrina, that evacuation is much better than staying.
With this particular storm, no one knows if even the new high rises could withstand the wind. Officials are saying that they won't.
I think this is one time where residents, even stubborn South Floridians, are taking it seriously.