How long would it take to replace SGE and MILF?

[Vince3]

Why would anyone want to replace a MILF?

 

[redkoala245]

Why do the need to replace MILF?!?!
That is one of my favorite MK attractions. When I go to MK, MILF always looks popular.
SGE has got to go though. I don't go on that ride anymore.
But if they replace anything it takes usually 1-2 years.

 

[TrevorA]

I forget where I heard it, but there used to be plans for big Tomorrowland changes. If I recall correctly, Stitch, Mike, Sulley and Buzz were going to be evicted, in favor of something more (how can I put this nicely?) original.

Unfortunately, with Space Mountain and the TTA just finishing up from major work, and a new Fantasyland on the way, the rest of Tomorrowland might have to wait a little while before it sees any action.

And I'm not the kind of person who likes to shoot people down, but realistically, I'm hearing too much "E-Ticket" garbage. Well, garabage wasn't the best word to use, but you get my point. Optimistically, the ideas would be great. But, Magic Kingdom is not Islands of Adventure or Six Flags. I would be satisfied with some more B, C and D tickets, personally.


---TrevorA

 

[the-reason14]

It doesn't go downhill. It transitions to Fantasyland.

At Disneyland, Tomorrowland begins downhill and just gets pitiful.


Fair enough.


Excuse me. You don't know any other Tomorrowland.

What I put in bold are things that all the other parks don't even have and what I've put in red are attractions that they don't even have systems for. And to add to that list, Disneyland doesn't have a proper Astro Orbitor high above the peoplemover platform.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Speaking of the peoplemover I really wish DL would get theirs back. It looks like it would have been a nice ride, better then the MK one as theirs seem to be longer.

 

[WDW1974]

OK, so the Marvel Park that isn't going to be built in Dubai gets moved and buried on a board no one reads, but this thread stays?

Am I missing something? Did Disney announce it was removing either attraction? (I know the answer. This is rhetorical only!)

 

[_Scar]

I've never been to Tarzan's Treehouse in either locations, but the pictures and reviews don't lie. I read them on these kinds of forums all the time like Micechat, DLRPToday, ect.

SGE- bring back a new and improved AE

It was banished for a reason. It was too scary. How would bringing it back help that problem?

Skyway-Replace with a pizza resteraunt

Why? Doesn't MK have enough quick service? We need table service!

Speedway-Give it the HKDL treatment.

We agree!

Buzz-Rework it so its more like DL's with hand-held guns, light up targets, and interactive effects when targets are hit.

But we get to spin ours (which I think is a fair trade:lol. Don't our targets do stuff when they're hit too?

Get ride of crappy stitch show stage and bring back Galaxy Palace theater.

Will never happen. Galazy Theater is long gone for CM parking.

Aladdin: Get rid of it. Its going to be very unneeded when the new Dumbo opens.

Capacity, capacity. Doubt it's going anywhere. :shrug:

Tiki Room: I think a fitting replacement would be to make it a Tiki-Room resteraunt like in the original plans for the DL attraction.

Stitch, can't believe I'm saying this, invade this!

Treehouse: Keep the same. No Tarzan!

Boo. Change is good! Listen to Obama. :animwink:

POTC: It needs a more proper refurbishment and reworking. Also, I'd like to see the Tortuga resteraunt idea that was shot down a while ago come into reality.

Don't think there's room for a restaurant and it just was on a lengthy refurb (that got sliced in budget).

 

[imagineer boy]

I've never been to Tarzan's Treehouse in either locations, but the pictures and reviews don't lie. I read them on these kinds of forums all the time like Micechat, DLRPToday, ect.

Perhaps they're refering to the architecture of the tree its self or somthing. Because I visited it when I was last at DL and it really was not too different from WDW's other than the Tarzan themeing. :shrug:

It was banished for a reason. It was too scary. How would bringing it back help that problem?

Put more warnings. Besides, the MK needs more of a teen appeal.

Why? Doesn't MK have enough quick service? We need table service!

Because it could be like this.

But we get to spin ours (which I think is a fair trade:lol. Don't our targets do stuff when they're hit too?

DL's spin too actually. DL's targets light up when they're hit also.

Will never happen. Galazy Theater is long gone for CM parking.

Screw their parking. :lol: The old theater had seating and shade, unlike the new stage.

Capacity, capacity. Doubt it's going anywhere. :shrug:

But that's what the new Dumbo is going to be all about. I think Aladdin will be pretty abandoned when its open.

Stitch, can't believe I'm saying this, invade this!

I think Stitch actually would make a good addition here. But I like the resteraunt idea better.

Boo. Change is good! Listen to Obama. :animwink:

Depends on the change. Trust me, Tarzan would be a waste of money.

Don't think there's room for a restaurant and it just was on a lengthy refurb (that got sliced in budget).

It still needs some reworking though. And there were plans for the Tortuga resteraunt, so they had to have a place to put it in mind.

 

[_Scar]

Perhaps they're refering to the architecture of the tree its self or somthing. Because I visited it when I was last at DL and it really was not too different from WDW's other than the Tarzan themeing. :shrug:

The whole point is the Tarzan themeing. All of the speical effects come from the Tarzan items like the drawing for example.

Put more warnings. Besides, the MK needs more of a teen appeal.

DHS is the "teen appeal". MK is for family appeal. AE is not a family ride.

Because it could be like this.

Errr, k.

DL's spin too actually. DL's targets light up when they're hit also.

Do you control where they spin? I've never actually been on it.

Screw their parking. :lol: The old theater had seating and shade, unlike the new stage.

Wants and needs. Prioritizing. Want theater. Need parking lot.

But that's what the new Dumbo is going to be all about. I think Aladdin will be pretty abandoned when its open.

Really? The new Dumbo is about not waiting in a long line to ride a classic and to eat people. Aladdin has great capacity.

I think Stitch actually would make a good addition here. But I like the resteraunt idea better.

Our Tiki Room is too small though. Something drastic would have to happen. :shrug:

Depends on the change. Trust me, Tarzan would be a waste of money.

Errr, why?

It still needs some reworking though. And there were plans for the Tortuga resteraunt, so they had to have a place to put it in mind.

But that was when it was being built. Bet that concept went away in the developing stage never to be heard from again. Or is this a new rumor? :veryconfu

 

[MarkTwain]

I've never been to Tarzan's Treehouse in either locations, but the pictures and reviews don't lie. I read them on these kinds of forums all the time like Micechat, DLRPToday, ect.

I guess you'll just have to take the word of people who've been... or we can agree to disagree!

It wasn't terrible, by any means, I just felt it lacked the level of interest or charm of Swiss Family Robinson's. Tarzan's has these big, cheesy wax-like figures that make you wonder why they're there, whether you are supposed to be reliving the movie or are touring the home. The rooms, it seemed like, weren't nearly as immersive or fully-formed; they were more two-dimensional. SFR's makes you feel like "I could live here!" or at least "I could explore this place for a while"... The response to Tarzan's is more like "yep, that's the scene from the movie." Its highlights are the swaying rope bridge and the fact that it felt more tropical than SFR... but SFR has more cool stuff like the water wheel and bamboo plumbing.

Decide what you like, I suppose; I'm not one to argue...

It was banished for a reason. It was too scary. How would bringing it back help that problem?

I know I'm new here, but I'm in the minority when I say I completely agree!

I'm a big advocate in the idea of family attractions, that the parks are a place where families can go to enjoy everything together. Even most of the Disney coasters are reasonably family-friendly, using less in the way of plummets and G-Forces and more just drops and turns. Alien Encounter, on the other hand, felt out-of-place, and unusually dystopian in a place that should be about a bright, optimistic (and today cartoony) tomorrow.

I actually like Stitch better... :lookaroun

But we get to spin ours (which I think is a fair trade:lol. Don't our targets do stuff when they're hit too?

They both have advantages that the other doesn't:

Disneyland:
- retractable guns
- FREE picture at the end!

WDW:
- better queue
- the huge, flying screen finale

I don't think I could between the two!

EDIT: and yes, you can control where they spin.

 

[Figment632]

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I've always heard that Tarzan's Treehouse pulls off some of the coolest effects Disney has ever put out. I don't know which people are saying they did a terrible job, and even if they did then they're def. the minority from what I've read.

To address your TLand suggestions:

1. Yes, speedway does fit. Maybe ot futuristic, but it allows children (and adults) to drive. Something they will be doing a lot of in the future. It's a Disney classic and staple for DL parks.
2. It does. The ride is neat, the story is bad.
3. MILF in no way fits TLand. In NO possible way.
4. BLSRS is one of the better atteractions in TLand IMO. I could go on it over and over again. Why is this such a bad idea? It's like TSMM in real life! Why can't there be 2 shooter games? They both are quality attractions. Plus beyond the shooter video game and Toy Story aspect they are nothing alike.
5. IMO, it's not a big deal. It's a simple tour ride and people bash it endlessly... I don't get it.
6. CoP is probably one of the few things in TLand that fits 100%. Plus, it's a classic for many. They should hang onto this IMO, but maybe update the story, AAs, effects...
7. Well, use the new expansion plot and build a replica Axiom :sohappy:
8. Yes. Hopefully soon sorta like TTA was updates after the refurb finished (new spiel)


They can pull off a lot in a short time if they put all of their attention to it. Unlikely since FLand will begin construction soon, but you never know...

I don't know what effects you speak of. I was on the Tarzan tree house in May and it was the same tree house with simply some non moving Tarzan figures, and they still even had the Swiss Family music playing.

1. The current Indy Speed way doesn't have a futuristic or any trace of a SciFi theme so it in no way shape or form fits in TL.
2. IMO SGE is one of the worst rides in theme park history.
3. LIke I said I would rather see MILF in DHS.
4. Buzz is really bad when compared to Astroblasters in DL, it has had the same layout since the 70's and if it is not brought up to th DL standards I wouls like to see it go.
5. SImple tour ride that used to have a nice script that was replaced with garbage.
6. As of right now COP's last scene is way too outdated for TL, they need to update it or remove it.
7. This might work but I would rather see something original and have Wall-e replace Stich.

 

[sublimesting]

Speedway I dislike as it takes up a ton of space and is really just fro kids. it has terrible themeing and wastes alot of fuel. But ppl seem to really dig it so it needs to go solar and have some theming to it.
I like MILF, it is funny to me.
SGE....I am so tired of Stitch being pushed so hard.

As for Adventureland I do not like Alladdin but I guess it fits. Other than that I think the land needs to be bigger and have an attraction added.

 

[Figment632]

Speedway I dislike as it takes up a ton of space and is really just fro kids. it has terrible themeing and wastes alot of fuel. But ppl seem to really dig it so it needs to go solar and have some theming to it.
I like MILF, it is funny to me.
SGE....I am so tired of Stitch being pushed so hard.

As for Adventureland I do not like Alladdin but I guess it fits. Other than that I think the land needs to be bigger and have an attraction added.

Something like this would work. THe wierd thin about the attraction is it's location, it is almost in FL and there is no major distinction to let you know that you are in TL.

What I would do is make electric cars like HKDL then rethem the speed way was as The Highway to Tommorow Land. Put in a futuristic forced perspective City Line and rethem the speedway with road signs, bill boards. They could be for the attractions in TL or Mickey's Star Traders.

Then put sensors in the ground that when you pass over them trigger speakers in the cars to simulate a radio. THey could have advertisements for futuristic products, or telling people not to miss a performance by Sunny Eclipse. They could also make working head lights or make the cars light up at night.

 

[DisneyNut2007]

A lot of you "fans" may hate SGE and MILF, but the vast majority of WDW's guests love them.

They're not going anywhere anytime in the future.

 

[Innoventions]

1. The current Indy Speed way doesn't have a futuristic or any trace of a SciFi theme so it in no way shape or form fits in TL.
2. IMO SGE is one of the worst rides in theme park history.

1. I think they should just remove it and make room for two or even three more attractions. There is quite a bit of room. Removing it and and adding buildings or facade would really help strengthen the theming. Probably room for a pretty good e or d ticket attraction.

2. Then with that logic AE was as well.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Because it could be like this.

They could team up with the Douglas Adams estate and serve Pan Galactic Gargle Busters.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Fact check!

I've never been to Tarzan's Treehouse in either locations, but the pictures and reviews don't lie. I read them on these kinds of forums all the time like Micechat, DLRPToday, ect.



It was banished for a reason. It was too scary. How would bringing it back help that problem?




Why? Doesn't MK have enough quick service? We need table service!



We agree!



But we get to spin ours (which I think is a fair trade:lol. Don't our targets do stuff when they're hit too?



Will never happen. Galazy Theater is long gone for CM parking.




Capacity, capacity. Doubt it's going anywhere. :shrug:



Stitch, can't believe I'm saying this, invade this!



Boo. Change is good! Listen to Obama. :animwink:



Don't think there's room for a restaurant and it just was on a lengthy refurb (that got sliced in budget).

It wouldn't be brought back, but still. Just becuase it's not for everyone does not mean that it has to be axed from AK. They could have kept it, tamed it, kept it original, and advertised that it WAS scary.

DHS is the "teen appeal". MK is for family appeal. AE is not a family ride.







Wants and needs. Prioritizing. Want theater. Need parking lot.



Really? The new Dumbo is about not waiting in a long line to ride a classic and to eat people. Aladdin has great capacity.




Our Tiki Room is too small though. Something drastic would have to happen. :shrug:

Everything can have the"Teen Appeal". Make one park for each person, you make it generic and the same.

Want/Need? The execs did not NEED their parking lot there. They already had one that was a little farther away. They didn't NEED to move anything.

Capacity is bunk, seeing they are adding another one, soon.

Our Tiki room could handle it...

 

[TrevorA]

Everything can have the"Teen Appeal". Make one park for each person, you make it generic and the same.

It could also be argued that making parks that try to cater to every demographic would make them generic and the same. It's like a movie that tries to fit into every genre.

Want/Need? The execs did not NEED their parking lot there. They already had one that was a little farther away. They didn't NEED to move anything.

What you fail to realize is that, while the manufacturers keep making new cars, nobody is making new parking spots for the new cars. After a while, the car to parking spot ratio is a little tipped, and they NEED to add to the existing lots.


---TrevorA

 

[NewfieFan]

Just to give you an average person's opinion. My parents just returned from the "World" and they took my mom's sister and her husband for the first time. Although my parents have been to WDW a few times I would still put them in the average guest category. They're not hardcore fans and they just go to the "World" to have a good time. They rode SGE for the first time this past trip and they thought it was... horrible! They were even embrassed they brought her sister and husband on it! My mother who never has an opinion on anything keep telling me, "I don't understand, why would Disney make this ride!?!" My mother likes most everything in WDW!

So it's not only the "fan boys" that don't like SGE!

My opinion... I just want to see WALL E somewhere, somehow! I don't have a problem with MILF, though... but I do think it would be better suited to Pixar Place in DHS!

 

[DisneyLeo18]

OK, so the Marvel Park that isn't going to be built in Dubai gets moved and buried on a board no one reads, but this thread stays?

Am I missing something? Did Disney announce it was removing either attraction? (I know the answer. This is rhetorical only!)

Wasn't that thread moved somewhere?

As a side note the Marvel Annual Meeting is coming up. Some interesting info about Disney will be discussed :drevil:

 

[sublimesting]

What you fail to realize is that, while the manufacturers keep making new cars, nobody is making new parking spots for the new cars. After a while, the car to parking spot ratio is a little tipped, and they NEED to add to the existing lots.


---TrevorA

It's not the amount of new cars manufacturers make but how many people are driving them.