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Hollywood Strikes Are Over! - SAG-AFTRA agrees to a deal
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Prince-1
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It’s the first season without any input from Ryan Murphy, and it shows.
BuddyThomas
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Oh, seriously? I wasn't aware of that. Well, at least they are doing four unrelated, stand alone episodes of American Horror Stories starting on October 26, for Halloween. The first few seasons of that were not great, but maybe......?
I don't understand that either.
I guess they are writing material for future actors for when they do return to work?
That, and writing stale jokes for the late night talk show hosts that no one watches any more.
Writing comes before any actors are on set… The SAG strike will not last forever… might as well start writing so you can start filming for when your actors do come back
Well, they have too. Because that could replace actors and writers which is not right. And besides, the A. I. will screw everything up.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Not sure what you mean, "AI will screw everything up"? Once again AI is a tool, just like any other piece of technology used today. It can be used for good or it can be used for bad, just like the very piece of technology you are typing these posts on today. But the technology itself is neither good nor bad.
Also the "AI could replace all actors and writers" is a scare tactic. Hollywood is not going to replace all human actors and writers completely, just not going to happen. And you know how I can say that? Because the moment that happens not only would there be a revolt by the public, but also those same executives risk their own jobs being replaced by AI. As if there is any job that could be replaced by AI today in Hollywood, its the executives. So yeah not going to happen.
For once, I agree with them! This is getting ridiculous! Those AMPTP are greedy and hopeless. They two choices either 1 get back on the negotiations and give the actors a fair and better deal or 2 Refuse to negotiate then the AMPTP better be disband so the actors and writers don't want to deal with them anymore. Their choice!
Going into the weekend, talks have been suspended and things are still rather icy with the union and the studios.
A few of this afternoon's headlines...
www.hollywoodreporter.com
variety.com
A few of this afternoon's headlines...
SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher Says AMPTP Suspending Talks “Came as a Shock to Me”
“We can’t go back to the way things were,” Drescher said in an interview with NBC's 'Today' Show on Friday amid the ongoing actors strike.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Hollywood Unions Call on Studios to Resume Talks With SAG-AFTRA
The Hollywood unions issued a statement Friday calling on the major studios to resume bargaining with SAG-AFTRA.
variety.com
Actors strike sees no end in sight after studio negotiations go awry
Actors ended strike negotiations on Wednesday after the SAG-AFTRA union alleges studio proposals were 'worth less' than pre-strike offers.
www.usatoday.com
You’re too late! I already know and it sucks! This strike will never end! The AMPTP are greedy and stupid.Going into the weekend, talks have been suspended and things are still rather icy with the union and the studios.
A few of this afternoon's headlines...
SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher Says AMPTP Suspending Talks “Came as a Shock to Me”
“We can’t go back to the way things were,” Drescher said in an interview with NBC's 'Today' Show on Friday amid the ongoing actors strike.
Hollywood Unions Call on Studios to Resume Talks With SAG-AFTRA
The Hollywood unions issued a statement Friday calling on the major studios to resume bargaining with SAG-AFTRA.
Actors strike sees no end in sight after studio negotiations go awry
Actors ended strike negotiations on Wednesday after the SAG-AFTRA union alleges studio proposals were 'worth less' than pre-strike offers.www.usatoday.com
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The AMPTP is not going to be disbanded.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
You're not the only one in this thread, others may be coming here to review posts and such.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Up until this strike I totally forgot how annoying Fran really is. If I was the AMPTP I wouldn't want to negotiate with her either.Going into the weekend, talks have been suspended and things are still rather icy with the union and the studios.
A few of this afternoon's headlines...
SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher Says AMPTP Suspending Talks “Came as a Shock to Me”
“We can’t go back to the way things were,” Drescher said in an interview with NBC's 'Today' Show on Friday amid the ongoing actors strike.
Hollywood Unions Call on Studios to Resume Talks With SAG-AFTRA
The Hollywood unions issued a statement Friday calling on the major studios to resume bargaining with SAG-AFTRA.
Actors strike sees no end in sight after studio negotiations go awry
Actors ended strike negotiations on Wednesday after the SAG-AFTRA union alleges studio proposals were 'worth less' than pre-strike offers.www.usatoday.com
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Things will work out. Just like the Writers Strike, it'll take time. So be patient and let the process happen.The AMPTP are greedy, stupid, and hopeless. This Hollywood strike will never end! And I hate to say this, but I’m starting to lose faith in Bob Iger.
My personal feeling is this will be wrapped up hopefully before Thanksgiving. None of the Studios wants this to go into 2024.
I hope you're right, because I had enough of Hollywood strike!
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Disagree. Think it is the inevitable cheap future of entertainment if it is not paused right now by these and coming strikes (video games, IATSE) and the contracts that result. I think AI is the destruction of Hollywood as a physical production medium (CGI has been the stepping stone to that) and many other service sector jobs if it is not slowed (I don't think it can be stopped any more than any other technological advance - it's too easy & seductive for people to not use it).
People are enamored with it now as a new toy. It's in its nascent stages. Most do not foresee the future consequences of it when it very quickly comes into its full potential abilities. Though scientists who specialized in developing AI are now coming out warning against it.
'Godfather of AI' leaves Google, warns of tech's dangers
Geoffrey Hinton, the man widely considered as the “godfather” of artificial intelligence, has left Google — with a message sharing his concerns about potential dangers stemming from the same technology he helped build. Hinton has said he left Google so that he could focus on raising public...
apnews.com
No, I am not a buggy whip manufacturer nor is my name Chicken Little. This is the biggest threat to jobs in a century, especially in the creative fields. That's why a lot of lawsuits are happening to try to stop it and guilds globally are getting involved trying to slow the coming destruction of the sector.
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
deadline.com
Thank you!Disagree. Think it is the inevitable cheap future of entertainment if it is not paused right now by these and coming strikes (video games, IATSE) and the contracts that result. I think AI is the destruction of Hollywood as a physical production medium (CGI has been the stepping stone to that) and many other service sector jobs if it is not slowed (I don't think it can be stopped any more than any other technological advance - it's too easy & seductive for people to not use it).
People are enamored with it now as a new toy. It's in its nascent stages. Most do not foresee the future consequences of it when it very quickly comes into its full potential abilities. Though scientists who specialized in developing AI are now coming out warning against it.
'Godfather of AI' leaves Google, warns of tech's dangers
Geoffrey Hinton, the man widely considered as the “godfather” of artificial intelligence, has left Google — with a message sharing his concerns about potential dangers stemming from the same technology he helped build. Hinton has said he left Google so that he could focus on raising public...
No, I am not a buggy whip manufacturer nor is my name Chicken Little. This is the biggest threat to jobs in a century, especially in the creative fields. That's why a lot of lawsuits are happening to try to stop it and guilds globally are getting involved trying to slow the coming destruction of the sector.
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Disagree. Think it is the inevitable cheap future of entertainment if it is not paused right now by these and coming strikes (video games, IATSE) and the contracts that result. I think AI is the destruction of Hollywood as a physical production medium (CGI has been the stepping stone to that) and many other service sector jobs if it is not slowed (I don't think it can be stopped any more than any other technological advance - it's too easy & seductive for people to not use it).
People are enamored with it now as a new toy. It's in its nascent stages. Most do not foresee the future consequences of it when it very quickly comes into its full potential abilities. Though scientists who specialized in developing AI are now coming out warning against it.
'Godfather of AI' leaves Google, warns of tech's dangers
Geoffrey Hinton, the man widely considered as the “godfather” of artificial intelligence, has left Google — with a message sharing his concerns about potential dangers stemming from the same technology he helped build. Hinton has said he left Google so that he could focus on raising public...
No, I am not a buggy whip manufacturer nor is my name Chicken Little. This is the biggest threat to jobs in a century, especially in the creative fields. That's why a lot of lawsuits are happening to try to stop it and guilds globally are getting involved trying to slow the coming destruction of the sector.
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
French Rights Body Sacem Announces Automatic AI Opt-Out For Members’ Work
As with any technology it can be used for good or bad. I gave the example of the technology you are using now to type these posts, whether that be desktop, laptop, smart phone, or other digital device. Someone can use it to bring down a bank or hospital, but should that mean you shouldn't be allowed to use it or other improvements made to it because of that, no of course not. Or for that matter, that same device has cost countless jobs and industries over the life of its development. Again should that mean you shouldn't be allowed to use it, of course not.
I'm not saying don't have laws surrounding it, as we do with a lot of technology, but it cannot be stopped. That genie is already out of the bottle, no putting it back. Also if you think about it, the easiest jobs to replace in Hollywood are the executives that make decisions. As they could be done far better and cheaper by AI than a human, and probably with better results. So yeah a full take over by AI in Hollywood will never happen for that exact reason.
And I say all of this as someone who is in the tech industry right in the middle of what AI is being developed, knowing full well my job can actually be lost tomorrow by AI. Sorry but the singularity is not coming. AI will not take over and crush humans.
MarvelCharacterNerd
Well-Known Member
Which I said above.
Which I also said above.
They agree with you.
Nearly half of CEOs believe AI could replace their own jobs, says new pollâand 47% say that's a good thing
Many American CEOs say they're worried about their workplace's lack of AI skills, a new survey of C-suite executives and workers found. Here's why.
www.cnbc.com
However, their assistants will beat them to the unemployment line.
Assistant jobs are already disappearing. And I've previously provided just a partial list of all the physical production jobs that will go when all production can be done effectively enough not just *on* a computer but *by* a computer.
I didn't say it would. But I did say it could kill a lot of jobs and industries. Including the majority of Hollywood. I'm neither Chicken Little nor old man yelling at cloud; I'm practical as he!!. I've also spent the past few years seeing exactly how impossible the job market has become because a lot of - if not all skills soon around here - can and will be done by a computer. And it's only going to get worse.As they could be done far better and cheaper by AI than a human, and probably with better results. So yeah a full take over by AI in Hollywood will never happen for that exact reason.
And I say all of this as someone who is in the tech industry right in the middle of what AI is being developed, knowing full well my job can actually be lost tomorrow by AI. Sorry but the singularity is not coming. AI will not take over and crush humans.
But hey, McDonald's is going to be paying better soon in CA than most assistant jobs. So... would you like fries with that?
Oh wait... a computer can take your order. It just can't cook it. Yet.