HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

Aramar

Active Member
Is there? GOG alone has twice the footprint of the quadrant
There are 8000 sq meters:
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Tower of Terror with the store included takes 3400 sq meters
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MagicHK

Well-Known Member
Final thought - I wonder if this ride will have a modern skyscraper aesthetic to blend with TL and the HK area in general ( famous for its eye catching skyscrapers )
Modern skyscraper would fit and sound more attractive outside of Hong Kong. I believe one of the reasons people from Hong Kong visit the park is to escape from the curtain wall jungle. It would be interesting to find out what kind of theme the imagineer would select for the facade of the lift tower tho.
 

Untitled-Man

New Member
Do you guys think they’d build a shorter version of it? Or part of it would be underground? I just realized Hong Kong’s space mountain is partially underground. Anyone know why?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Do you guys think they’d build a shorter version of it? Or part of it would be underground? I just realized Hong Kong’s space mountain is partially underground. Anyone know why?
Probably because it is at Disneyland and a bigger dome at Hong Kong Disneyland would have had the same issues of scale that had it sunk at Disneyland in the first place.
 

Aramar

Active Member
That’s the Paris one isn’t it, seems noticeably smaller. I used GOG specifically but I may have completely messed up using the measurement tool
The one in California has basically the same size than Paris:

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May also need to consider the back of house behind the ride and the toilet building
Including those 2 buildings from Paris which are not present in California, the space is roughly 4600 sq meters, so still plenty of extra room available.

I got carried away and also measured Tokyo's, which has a larger garden and takes about 4800 sq meters.

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Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
The one in California has basically the same size than Paris:

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Including those 2 buildings from Paris which are not present in California, the space is roughly 4600 sq meters, so still plenty of extra room available.

I got carried away and also measured Tokyo's, which has a larger garden and takes about 4800 sq meters.

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Sorry that was my bad then, I did it myself but must have misread it because somehow I got GOG alone being twice the size of the HK quadrant, not half the size
 

Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
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So is this leaked layout for the Spiderman-TOT what we are getting ? This plan was leaked in 2021...

(source : https://www.disneycentralplaza.com/t56215p100-stark-expo-hong-kong-disneyland-2019-2023)
Just returning to this, if the announcement is any indication then there will be a restaurant, a shop and 1/2 rides (I’m assuming 1 given the offical HK twitter posted 1

This layout has two problems in my eyes.

1) the guest facing area (the right half) doesn’t have room for a restaurant (even a quick service) assuming that the shopping is just the gift shop inside the ride like the other towers. Though I will say when they originally announced the small world expansion they did mention dining as well but that ended up being a permanent ice cream stand which would fit here

2) the cast only area on the other side connects to nothing, just beyond the boundaries of the drawn path there is the railroad maintenance track and behind that is a pseudo expansion pad. That’s a lot of space to waste on a cast only area that’s a functional dead end
 

Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
They might be able to buy as far as I’m aware I don’t even know if the part considers that area an expansion pad, you are getting close to both the back of space and to the unmovable cast only areas at the back of the park

It would be awkward to put something there as they’d either have to rip the stage down opening up Tomorrowland to know it easily accessible or it would have to have a somewhat access point from the parade route near small world
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
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Could they potentially move the maintenance track to be able to access the whole area north of Tomorrowland and Space Mountain?
That’s a pretty tight turn you’ve drawn. You’d also change the direction of the trains somewhere, whether it’s in the shed or on the circuit, which comes with its own set of required changes. If you’re doing that much changing it might be worth it to just move the shed.

They might be able to buy as far as I’m aware I don’t even know if the part considers that area an expansion pad, you are getting close to both the back of space and to the unmovable cast only areas at the back of the park
Back of house facilities get relocated displaced with some regularity. Why are they unmovable at Hong Kong Disneyland?
 

Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
That’s a pretty tight turn you’ve drawn. You’d also change the direction of the trains somewhere, whether it’s in the shed or on the circuit, which comes with its own set of required changes. If you’re doing that much changing it might be worth it to just move the shed.


Back of house facilities get relocated displaced with some regularity. Why are they unmovable at Hong Kong Disneyland?
Back of house facilities get moved but there is in general some that are genuinely unmovable or difficult to move

The area north of small world or west of space is the central core of HK’s backstage with the backstage base, HR and the training facilities for the park present

The park doesn’t really own the space to move that offsite, the only real land that can fit those offsite locations is the 4th hotel slot

They could maybe move some of them to the area south of the pavilion but there is limits

It’s also why they can’t build north of current magic limits, because in general they can’t/wont move westclock
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
That’s a pretty tight turn you’ve drawn. You’d also change the direction of the trains somewhere, whether it’s in the shed or on the circuit, which comes with its own set of required changes. If you’re doing that much changing it might be worth it to just move the shed.


Back of house facilities get relocated displaced with some regularity. Why are they unmovable at Hong Kong Disneyland?
Spitballing but something like this could be better (in blue). But would It be worth doing for a comparatively small gain. Unless they went all in and bridged the existing track with a show building more like what was originally planned to make it worth while

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