Supersnow84
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That’s the Paris one isn’t it, seems noticeably smaller. I used GOG specifically but I may have completely messed up using the measurement tool
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HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.
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Modern skyscraper would fit and sound more attractive outside of Hong Kong. I believe one of the reasons people from Hong Kong visit the park is to escape from the curtain wall jungle. It would be interesting to find out what kind of theme the imagineer would select for the facade of the lift tower tho.
Untitled-Man
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Do you guys think they’d build a shorter version of it? Or part of it would be underground? I just realized Hong Kong’s space mountain is partially underground. Anyone know why?
Supersnow84
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Size constraints I believe, the space inside the railroad track just isn’t terribly big
lazyboy97o
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Probably because it is at Disneyland and a bigger dome at Hong Kong Disneyland would have had the same issues of scale that had it sunk at Disneyland in the first place.
Untitled-Man
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But the other space mountains are all above ground
Supersnow84
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Yes Hong Kong has less space so the others domes are larger
The one in California has basically the same size than Paris:
Including those 2 buildings from Paris which are not present in California, the space is roughly 4600 sq meters, so still plenty of extra room available.
I got carried away and also measured Tokyo's, which has a larger garden and takes about 4800 sq meters.
Supersnow84
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Sorry that was my bad then, I did it myself but must have misread it because somehow I got GOG alone being twice the size of the HK quadrant, not half the size
Supersnow84
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Just returning to this, if the announcement is any indication then there will be a restaurant, a shop and 1/2 rides (I’m assuming 1 given the offical HK twitter posted 1
This layout has two problems in my eyes.
1) the guest facing area (the right half) doesn’t have room for a restaurant (even a quick service) assuming that the shopping is just the gift shop inside the ride like the other towers. Though I will say when they originally announced the small world expansion they did mention dining as well but that ended up being a permanent ice cream stand which would fit here
2) the cast only area on the other side connects to nothing, just beyond the boundaries of the drawn path there is the railroad maintenance track and behind that is a pseudo expansion pad. That’s a lot of space to waste on a cast only area that’s a functional dead end
infloencer
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Could they potentially move the maintenance track to be able to access the whole area north of Tomorrowland and Space Mountain?
Supersnow84
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They might be able to buy as far as I’m aware I don’t even know if the part considers that area an expansion pad, you are getting close to both the back of space and to the unmovable cast only areas at the back of the park
It would be awkward to put something there as they’d either have to rip the stage down opening up Tomorrowland to know it easily accessible or it would have to have a somewhat access point from the parade route near small world
It would be awkward to put something there as they’d either have to rip the stage down opening up Tomorrowland to know it easily accessible or it would have to have a somewhat access point from the parade route near small world
lazyboy97o
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That’s a pretty tight turn you’ve drawn. You’d also change the direction of the trains somewhere, whether it’s in the shed or on the circuit, which comes with its own set of required changes. If you’re doing that much changing it might be worth it to just move the shed.
Back of house facilities get relocated displaced with some regularity. Why are they unmovable at Hong Kong Disneyland?
Supersnow84
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Back of house facilities get moved but there is in general some that are genuinely unmovable or difficult to move
The area north of small world or west of space is the central core of HK’s backstage with the backstage base, HR and the training facilities for the park present
The park doesn’t really own the space to move that offsite, the only real land that can fit those offsite locations is the 4th hotel slot
They could maybe move some of them to the area south of the pavilion but there is limits
It’s also why they can’t build north of current magic limits, because in general they can’t/wont move westclock
Spitballing but something like this could be better (in blue). But would It be worth doing for a comparatively small gain. Unless they went all in and bridged the existing track with a show building more like what was originally planned to make it worth while
Supersnow84
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Did they even plan to bridge the track with the quinjet building
I specifically thought they were designing it to fit the odd quadrangle shape
infloencer
Active Member
Well you could obviously make the turn bigger which would still lead to more accessible land nonetheless. And I really don’t think turning around three trains is nearly as costly as building a completely new shed and destructing the old one.
Not as far as I know. The art strangely showed no railroad at all.
I was just armchair imagineering how to maximise the space without rerouting.
Supersnow84
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That I always jusy assumed was just showing it covering all of what was autopia but it’s the most reliable info we have I guess