News Hatbox Ghost coming to Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion

ChrisFL

Premium Member
I suppose we could have levied the same argument about Pirates, though not as specific when they had the mist image of Davy Jones or Blackbeard at the very beginning of the ride, before we "go back in time" via the drop. It isn't as obvious though.
 

The Rocketeer

Well-Known Member
Nope! They’ve still got the pop ups and the beating heart bride! Apparently they were pressured to adopt the modern attic so all they did was surround the original bride with a few of the modern wedding portraits and they left everything else intact, popups, bats, and all.
Well that's another reason to add to the list of a thousands reasons to make a trip out to TDR.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
I don't think it's *because* of the movie as much as the movie is another example is HBG not being bound to the a silly "rule" that may not even be a real rule. If any other ghost other than HBG than maybe I'd feel similar. I agree that its a charming ride, I just don't see a mistake.
Seems the rules have worked better than the exception.
 

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HOUSE OF MAGIC
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Is there no room left in the graveyard? I get that the attic is a bust because of Constance but surely there's room in the graveyard? If they must do something near the hallway, a simple cane and hat resting on the chair would be enough to foreshadow an encounter with the Hatbox ghost later in the attraction.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
More than the incorrect placement, I’m bothered by the figure stealing focus from an already brilliantly staged scene. The hallway seems to be turning into a secondary visual when it’s absolutely the star of that scene. Not anymore…
This right here!!! That's going to be the problem, and one they either have a plan for to address it ,,or they just don't know or care anymore.....will see.
 

HMF

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Is there no room left in the graveyard? I get that the attic is a bust because of Constance but surely there's room in the graveyard? If they must do something near the hallway, a simple cane and hat resting on the chair would be enough to foreshadow an encounter with the Hatbox ghost later in the attraction.
The ideal place is where he is at Disneyland outside the attic on a balcony. Our insiders have said it is not possible to put him there in the WDW version but have yet to explain why.
 

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HOUSE OF MAGIC
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The ideal place is where he is at Disneyland outside the attic on a balcony. Our insiders have said it is not possible to put him there in the WDW version but have yet to explain why.
Absolutely! They could however put him where Constance resides currently. Yet, again they choose not to for "reasons". Frankly, I'd be ecstatic if they axed Constance (put intended) and gave us a mostly static, heart beat bride again or something of a similar, subtle eeriness. It's a real shame Hatbox will be located somewhere near the Endless Hallway...
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Absolutely! They could however put him where Constance resides currently. Yet, again they choose not to for "reasons". Frankly, I'd be ecstatic if they axed Constance (put intended) and gave us a mostly static, heart beat bride again or something of a similar, subtle eeriness. It's a real shame Hatbox will be located somewhere near the Endless Hallway...
I can guarantee you the "reasons" are that Constance has been there for nearly two decades now and moves merchandise especially considering there is now a whole generation who don't remember the ride without her and WDI is not going to backpedal on fleshing out the Bride character.
 

Joel

Well-Known Member
In what way is the story told in Haunted Mansion nonlinear? What evidence is there for this in the attraction itself? This isn't a Tarantino film or an open world RPG we're talking about. As far as I can tell, the scenes you witness as you travel through the mansion are happening in real-time chronologically. Nowhere is it even implied that it's a series of vignettes or whatever.

That it was formed from a mishmash of ideas from multiple contributors is... not unlike an awful lot of linear storytelling we've all consumed in various formats throughout our lives. Besides, if we're going to talk about things that the average guest doesn't know/care about, this piece of behind the scenes trivia is near the top of the list. It's almost entirely irrelevant to the end result.

I'm keeping an open mind about the location of MK's HBG until I experience it for myself, but some of the pushback against people who think this isn't a great spot for him is just weird. The value from a storytelling perspective in having only glimpses of the undead until Leota (whether it's even a rule or not) -- with the ballroom serving as the big reveal and the graveyard as the grand finale -- seems pretty obvious to me.

If it's too impractical to put him somewhere that makes more sense, then fine. But, personally, I'd probably rather just not have him at all in that case. Or better yet, send Constance to the big Harmonious barge dumpster in the sky and put HBG in the attic where he belongs. Heartbeat Bride is best girl.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Is there no room left in the graveyard? I get that the attic is a bust because of Constance but surely there's room in the graveyard? If they must do something near the hallway, a simple cane and hat resting on the chair would be enough to foreshadow an encounter with the Hatbox ghost later in the attraction.
It's so jammed full of ghosts already. It's not like they have room for one more.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
*Sigh* I still stand by that it will just be his hat box sitting by the Donald chair and every now and then just his head will appear looking at the guests and disappear up to the point that we meet him later on in the cemetery...

Plus, do you honestly think they have a budget for 2 full size outsourced animatronics now a days?
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HOUSE OF MAGIC
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*Sigh* I still stand by that it will just be his hat box sitting by the Donald chair and every now and then just his head will appear looking at the guests and disappear up to the point that we meet him later on in the cemetery...
I'd welcome this. A subtle nod foreshadowing his reveal later on. It just makes too much sense. So, a definite no from the geniuses at WDI.
 

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