News Hatbox Ghost coming to Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion

yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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Miss Jennifer said:
I kind of miss the days when the bride was often interpreted as a tragic character. (The backstory the cast members created for the old bride--which ended up in the Ghost Gallery book/webpage that is now part of the Haunted Mansion wiki) was inspired by an old legend of a bride playing hide-and-seek on her wedding day and suffocating in a trunk that got locked. It was the basis of a poem called "Ginevra" by Samuel Rogers and a ballad called "The Mistletoe Bough" by Thomas Haynes Bayly.) So I'd like to see them go back to that idea. Maybe, as a connection to one of Marc Davis' unused changing portrait concepts, the bride could age and decay into a skeleton as the doombuggies passed?
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Agreed that the dark and mysterious Bride was best. Part of the genius of rides like Mansion and Pirates is that there's so much space for your imagination to mingle - the actions of the characters are well defined but their identities and motivations are often ambiguous enough for your mind to fill in the blanks as it sees fit.

At the very least, Disneyland's Bride will be an improved illusion when the classic show returns next year. Still Constance, I believe, but more impressive than the effect we've been stuck with for nearly 20 years.
 
HMF

HMF

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The Bride was originally intended to have be-headed the Hatbox Ghost in the scenes original formulation which was lost only a few weeks after the ride opened. The Constance scene is the spiritual successor to the way the scene was originally intended. You can read my history of the attic scene here.
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Kittlesona

Kittlesona

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Slightly off topic, but am I the only person who seeing the headless portraits in reverse? By that I mean, EVERY one of them I see the man headless first and then he “regains” his head as I continue to view it. Surely it’s meant to be seen the other way right? So that we know they all lost their heads? My fixation on that each time I ride takes me out of the malevolence of the attic each time.
 
VicariousCorpse

VicariousCorpse

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Kittlesona said:
Slightly off topic, but am I the only person who seeing the headless portraits in reverse? By that I mean, EVERY one of them I see the man headless first and then he “regains” his head as I continue to view it. Surely it’s meant to be seen the other way right? So that we know they all lost their heads? My fixation on that each time I ride takes me out of the malevolence of the attic each time.
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The timing is independent of the doombuggies. They just switch back and forth between the two with equal amount of time. It's just coincidence and timing of your riding.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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VicariousCorpse said:
The timing is independent of the doombuggies. They just switch back and forth between the two with equal amount of time. It's just coincidence and timing of your riding.
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The effect is positional. If you stayed still, there would be no transformations.

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yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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VicariousCorpse

VicariousCorpse

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MisterPenguin said:
The effect is positional. If you stayed still, there would be no transformations.

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It's actually a two layer scrim with lighting in front and behind.

At 8:35 you can see the doom buggy stopped and the transformations continue looping. While Disney loves their lenticulars for promos and merchandise, they're even on the construction walls for the mansion at Disneyland, I don't think they've ever been used inside any mansion.

 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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VicariousCorpse said:
It's actually a two layer scrim with lighting in front and behind.

At 8:35 you can see the doom buggy stopped and the transformations continue looping. While Disney loves their lenticulars for promos and merchandise, they're even on the construction walls for the mansion at Disneyland, I don't think they've ever been used inside any mansion.

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The only lenticular I can think of that featured inside one of the Mansions was this one from the wall that hid Disneyland's Hatbox Ghost install. Bats like the ones from the stanchions appeared to fly around inside the window as you rode by. Never quite understood what they were going for there, but it was a lenticular:

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Kittlesona

Kittlesona

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
The only lenticular I can think of that featured inside one of the Mansions was this one from the wall that hid Disneyland's Hatbox Ghost install. Bats like the ones from the stanchions appeared to fly around inside the window as you rode by. Never quite understood what they were going for there, but it was a lenticular:

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I very much assumed this was how the heads work. Now I’m wondering why the effect isn’t more timed with the positioning of the doom buggies.

The different practical effects of the mansion are fascinating!
 
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Touchdown

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Kittlesona said:
I very much assumed this was how the heads work. Now I’m wondering why the effect isn’t more timed with the positioning of the doom buggies.

The different practical effects of the mansion are fascinating!
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Do you want to know how it works? Because I’ve seen it not work properly at DL

The head screen is very quickly lowered into the body and back up. I also believe the screen may constrict a little as well but I’m not sure on that. It’s hidden by the puff of smoke animation. The animation was not working properly one time I rode. Doesn’t really spoil the effect for me, just makes me appreciate it more
 

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