Tha Realest
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Kind of odd that with all that’s been going on in Florida we got to spend the last few months in the Magic Kingdom seeing what happens behind the candelabra.
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Kind of odd that with all that’s been going on in Florida we got to spend the last few months in the Magic Kingdom seeing what happens behind the candelabra.
This is the way. Fandom and later Imagineers ran with the character and made up a narrative using the entire mansion to support it. I much prefer the interpretation of the character as another one-off standalone entity. An emaciated morose spirit seemingly died from a broken heart. I feel like a compromise could be had with current Imagineers if they just scaled it back. Making her spiel-less would be a massive improvement. She doesn't have to be a black widow bride or vengeful. Or, if they have to go for a narrative, flip the script so she's wielding an hatchet not for murder but to cut down her beloved to be reunited with him in the afterlife. Tokyo got it mostly right with the presentation of their bride and the Attic scene in general. (until they retconned her as Constance)
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yensidtlaw1969
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Agreed that the dark and mysterious Bride was best. Part of the genius of rides like Mansion and Pirates is that there's so much space for your imagination to mingle - the actions of the characters are well defined but their identities and motivations are often ambiguous enough for your mind to fill in the blanks as it sees fit.
At the very least, Disneyland's Bride will be an improved illusion when the classic show returns next year. Still Constance, I believe, but more impressive than the effect we've been stuck with for nearly 20 years.
HMF
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The Bride was originally intended to have be-headed the Hatbox Ghost in the scenes original formulation which was lost only a few weeks after the ride opened. The Constance scene is the spiritual successor to the way the scene was originally intended. You can read my history of the attic scene here.
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The History of the "Heart" of Disney's Haunted Mansion
The Haunted Mansion's Attic Scene's evolution through the years.
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𝕴𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖗97
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Constance has got to go someday, right?
Kittlesona
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Slightly off topic, but am I the only person who seeing the headless portraits in reverse? By that I mean, EVERY one of them I see the man headless first and then he “regains” his head as I continue to view it. Surely it’s meant to be seen the other way right? So that we know they all lost their heads? My fixation on that each time I ride takes me out of the malevolence of the attic each time.
HMF
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Most likely, No.
VicariousCorpse
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The timing is independent of the doombuggies. They just switch back and forth between the two with equal amount of time. It's just coincidence and timing of your riding.
The effect is positional. If you stayed still, there would be no transformations.
Lenticular printing - Wikipedia
yensidtlaw1969
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The portraits aren't lenticular - if your Doombuggy gets stopped in the Attic the portraits will still continue changing.The effect is positional. If you stayed still, there would be no transformations.
Lenticular printing - Wikipedia
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They're a modified version of the Changing Portrait Hall portraits.
VicariousCorpse
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It's actually a two layer scrim with lighting in front and behind.The effect is positional. If you stayed still, there would be no transformations.
Lenticular printing - Wikipedia
At 8:35 you can see the doom buggy stopped and the transformations continue looping. While Disney loves their lenticulars for promos and merchandise, they're even on the construction walls for the mansion at Disneyland, I don't think they've ever been used inside any mansion.
Mireille
Premium Member
Is this a Liberace joke?
RainbowFigmentum
Member
In each of the photos with the husband, she gains a pearl to her necklace, as his head disappears.
Well, then, I stand corrected!
Maybe it's the pearls....
TeriofTerror
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I'll leave those to the Country Bears.
yensidtlaw1969
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The only lenticular I can think of that featured inside one of the Mansions was this one from the wall that hid Disneyland's Hatbox Ghost install. Bats like the ones from the stanchions appeared to fly around inside the window as you rode by. Never quite understood what they were going for there, but it was a lenticular:
Kittlesona
Active Member
I very much assumed this was how the heads work. Now I’m wondering why the effect isn’t more timed with the positioning of the doom buggies.
The different practical effects of the mansion are fascinating!
Do you want to know how it works? Because I’ve seen it not work properly at DL
The head screen is very quickly lowered into the body and back up. I also believe the screen may constrict a little as well but I’m not sure on that. It’s hidden by the puff of smoke animation. The animation was not working properly one time I rode. Doesn’t really spoil the effect for me, just makes me appreciate it more