Stevek
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They should totally be selling those in the Tower gift shop right now to troll the fans.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure
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Stevek
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Supposedly it's Universe of Energy that's getting some type of Guardians redo...at least that's one rumor.Well the GoTG ride in Orlando is just a rumor. Who knows, maybe the Great Movie Ride is on the chopping block.
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From what I can tell I would say most people don't care.
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Oh yeah, someone did hint that it was going in Epcot.
SSG
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mickEblu, I think you're right that social media is trending disfavorably on this change, but save for a few histrionic folks across social media, I'd be willing to bet that it's more of a mild dislike and not a deep-rooted hatred of the project that--most importantly to Disney--will keep them away from the parks. Most will say 'what a shame' and maybe sign a petition, but they will plan their next trip to DLR and renew their APs and will stand in line for the new attraction. Disney is counting on the short term furor to die down pretty quickly. I think they are probably correct on that.
mickEblu
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George Lucas on a Bench
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Won't somebody please think of the ghosts? I'm sick of Disneyland's ghostly residents being evicted in favor of stupid cartoon characters.
mickEblu
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Why is a casual fan inclined to complain? Shouldn't they be excited about this GOTG overlay? So who is the target audience here? Where are the excited people? I've seen plenty of folks that are passionately against it, mildly dislike it or just plain indifferent. It seems like there are fewer excited folks than each of the 3 groups above.
GiveMeTheMusic
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Oh they did RESEARCH on this and determined that the backlash for changing TOT wouldn't be big enough to cause reconsideration of plans. I'm not joking.
I don't think the public is near as riled up as fans.
George Lucas on a Bench
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The certainly haven't announced a redo of the original at WDW. Is that one safe? DCA's is less sacred, for sure.
mickEblu
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I would Love to see that research. I'm having a hard time distinguishing the public from fans (excluding hardcore enthusiasts like us on these boards)
So they care more about the "public" then the casual fan who visits the park from time to time? If casual fans are not the "public" then who is? People who don't care about Disneyland at all? New potential fans? Folks that go to the park once in their lifetime?
SSG
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I'm probably explaining this badly. Let's use my sister in law for an example. Her and my nieces go to DLR maybe every 3 years. She calls herself a Disneyland fan, but (IMO) it's in a casual way. She loves DL when she's there, but she rarely thinks about it when she isn't. It was just a couple hours ago that the news of this change percolated down to her (probably it showed up in her Facebook feed). She likes ToT, so her reaction (paraphrased) was 'Bummer ToT is going away (frowny face). She isn't outraged; she isn't boycotting the park, and I bet she won't think much more about it. And the next time she goes, she will try out the new ride. That's the low-level dislike I'm talking about. It isn't serious, I guess is what I'm saying. I think much of the discontent is along those lines.
mickEblu
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There's not much to be excited about at this point unless you're a big GoTG fan.
mickEblu
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I dunno, that video didn't excite me but I think it was made with the intention to excite Fans and not for a reaction that can be summed up as mild dislike.
Even though what I read through the lines from Joe Rhode was " please don't hate us, this will turn out ok, I think."
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mickEblu
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You may be overthinking this a bit.
I dunno. In my humble opinion, I'm pretty good at reading people. He didn't sound confident. Almost like he was trying to convince himself.
Figments Friend
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I have to respectfully disagree, as I can think of two examples where fan opinions on web forums online made real changes.
Changed Disney's mind on a couple of matters.
One such change happened on his very Forum.
Every time someone says 'it won't make any difference', ' you can't change anything', or ' Disney does not listen to fans on message forums' I feel a need to tell the tale of these two examples that DID make a difference.
Particularly the first tale....
Back in February 2007, it was learned that there was to be no official public acknowledgement or celebration of Epcot's 25th Anniversary.
Park Fans were very angry about it post-announcement and voiced their opinions on this Forum amoung others.
People were disappointed and felt this was a disrespectful snub to Epcot's legacy.
I remember it well.
Lots of groaning, anger, and disappointment....and lots a discussion about it.
A certain purple dragon here decided that instead of us all just sitting around being dissapointed about it and moaning online about Epcot being ignored, we should all get together and have our OWN 'celebration' in the Park.
A positive 'fan rally' showing Epcot some love.
The seed was planted in a thread that said purple dragon started right here and it spawned a bonified web 'movement'.
Fans joined together to offer help and support for putting this together and it snowballed into a major Event.
Those folks who joined together made a great team and we became a stronger force because of it.
The snowball started rolling and turned into a massive Avalanche within a couple of months time.
It garnered so much attention on this Forum that it carried over into the discussion within others.
Other websites started talking about it...blogs were being written about it.
This all happened pre-social media..no 'Facebook', no 'Disney Parks Blog'.
When 'registration' opened for the free Event, it attracted so many attendees signing up for the home grown 'Epcot celebration' that it made the Orlando Sentinel run a story about it in the press.
The story was Disney is 'doing nothing publically' but fans are rising up to celebrate in the Park that day regardless.
Then things really took off....like a rocket.....
After the press story happened, Disney suddenly did a complete turnaround in attitude regarding the Anniversary and soon a fantastic public celebration for the Park was announced.
Lots of bells and whistles.
Special presentations / ceremonies...and of course lots of Limited Edition 25th merchandise.
Thousands of people from around the country and internationally to attend the Event in the Park and thousands more including Cast Members showed up for the day to be a part of what they had been following the story of online for months.
Add into the mix the thousands of day Guests who just happened to be there that day.
It was a impressive showing of support for Epcot's silver anniversary.
Not bad for something that was originally not going to happen!
It was a awesome day, and in my opinion a huge victory for the Epcot fans.
They let Disney hear loud and clear this Park means something and should not be ignored.
They truly made a difference and turned things around.
Many reps from Disney, including management, Disney Legends, etc. came to Epcot that day as well and actively participated in the celebration.
The merch sold out completely within a couple of hours ( some peices within an hour )
Certain people took notice of all of this.
It was a tremendous success anyway you looked at it.
Research 'Epcot's 25 Anniversary' or 'Celebration 25' to learn the details.
It was a amazing story of how it all developed and what the end result was.
A great example of how fans CAN make a difference and change things via a web Forum...this one!
I should know...
I had a little to do with that Epcot Anniversary happening.....see, I was the 'purple dragon'.
The other incident that comes to mind is the group of fans known as 'The Friends of Figment'.
This was a website set up some years ago by fans of the original 'Journey Into Imagination' Attraction.
In 1998 the Original beloved Attraction was closed, shamelessly gutted, and repurposed into a truly terrible excuse for a 'replacement' called 'Journey Into YOUR Imagination'.....with NO Dreamfinder or Figment.
Oh, and hardly any imagination contained with it, either!
Fans were outraged and disgusted.
The fallout after opening was heard all the way to Burbank and Glendale.
People were livid at the removal of the Original Attraction for this utter garbage, but also for the removal of Figment ( and Dreamfinder, it must be said ).
They wanted these characters back, and a imaginative Attraction again.
It was clear fans of the Park(s) HATED the '2nd version' with a seething displeasure.
The 'replacement' was a horribly lame and cheap effort, I must say.
Such a vapid, empty effort compared to what was featured previously.
It was a true shock for many fans.
I don't think there has ever been a ride closure that has generated such an outcry and backlash against Disney's decision as the opening of the poorly executed '2nd version'.
Fans let their voices be heard and web sites like 'The Friends of Figment' played a key role in getting the terrible '2nd try' closed and a new '3rd version' opened.
A online petition and direct letter writing campaign to Disney sent a clear message - we want Figment BACK!
The terrible '2nd version' closed shortly later, only being open for about a year.
Soon afterwards it was announced Figment would return in a brand new Attraction slated to open the following year.
When the Attraction re-opened in the early 2000s, as 'Journey Into Your Imagination with Figment', fans rejoiced at their purple buddies' return.
He was back in the Pavilion and in the Park he belonged after being sorely missed.
In general folks felt the new ( current ) Attraction was far better then the lame '2nd version', but in no way could it match the brilliance and appeal of the Original.
Still, because of the public outcry and web forum efforts, fans made a difference in convincing Disney that this character and what he represents was important.
They played a role, and still do, in letting them know this characters means something.
So you see, people do have the power to make a difference...even through fan forums on the Internet.
I'm living proof.
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You do have a valid point, however, in that fans cannot just complain and expect changes.
A fan, or group of fans, need to actively seek a means to make those changes happen...or at the very least actively try.
Just sitting on your duff and typing on a web forum is not enough.
Action is essential, not just words.
That is the difference between success and non-success.
Disney will never satisfy everyone, and it's probably for the best that they do not even try.
It's better for them to offer a wide variety of experiences instead of the just pushing out the same type of offering over and over again.
We already see that in the Parks ....over saturation of certain aspects.
The 'kidified' aspects encroaching within concepts that would have been better going in a more interesting direction.
It's good people have such vastly different tastes, and opinions on those tastes.
Sure makes reading the Forums a lot more entertaining!
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