Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

NobodyElse

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The only talk about the ride closing in January, I wonder if they might start exterior work with the ride still open.

Exterior work will begin soon, well before the ride actually closes.

Also, it looks to me like much of the exterior work could be modular, bolt-on work. Depending on when this idea was really cooked up, a portion of that fabrication could already be done or in progress at an off-site facility. Structural site prep, then installation could be under way while the current (interior) attraction remains operational, even through the advertised Halloween season.
 

Stevek

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We're supposed to be considerate of the Disney corporation when sharing our opinons now? Good gravy.
Yes and no. With anything, you can choose to be considerate or diplomatic in voicing your opinion or you can go full on nuclear against them. There is an obnoxious, large and vocal subset of the fanbase that poo poos everything that Disney does (some of it rightfully so). I'm sure folks at Disney are past the point of caring because of these types of fans that don't pick their battles.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
The certainly haven't announced a redo of the original at WDW. Is that one safe? DCA's is less sacred, for sure.
It seems less and less likely. I'm probably preaching to the choir, but here I go...As badly as it fits in DCA, there's no way they can make it fit in WDW. In DCA, they can do a Marvel land, which they can't do in WDW (restrictions because of Uni having Marvel in their parks). Imagine walking through what is essentially 1920s Hollywood, through all of these shops, and up this nice long path with stylized buildings and at the end of the street to see...a giant SciFi building. Nope, doesn't work. Not to mention TofT represents DHS in many promotional materials. Plus, there would be the question of what to do with the 5th dimension scene. And in a park that is basically half closed because of an expansion, it's not really a good idea to take away one of the most popular attractions for any length of time.

Although an original Guardians attraction would fit best in DHS or Tomorrowland, I personally would rather have them put it in Epcot then mess up TofT. TofT is easily one of the best, if not the best, attraction at WDW. They should not mess with it.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
They did the (pretty substantial) reskin of Test Track in about the same amount of time. Closed in April and officially reopened in December. If you've been on it, with exception of the track itself, it's barely recognizable to what was there 8 months earlier -- and ride-wise, there was a lot more to change than we'll have with ToT. I'm sure a lot of it is being worked on right now and will just be put into place once it goes down.
Hopefully, since they seem to be going through with this incredibly stupid idea, they don't mess it up as horribly as they did when they Tron-ified TT.
 

choco choco

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I'll admit I don't know what the actual plans for the east parking structure look like, but please define "undersized".

The ideal size would be at least 12,000 spots, which is enough to demolish Mickey and Friends (see my post) and see the resort through until the third park opens, at which point they can expand it again.

The Sybron/Pumbaa spot can easily accommodate a structure for 12,000 spots right now. Remember, Mickey and Friends is sized the way it is to accommodate the residential district across the road and to avoid it from peeking above the Rivers of America. None of those constraints exist on the Sybron/Pumbaa site. Which means they can go bigger. Much bigger.

But they don't need much bigger right now. They need somewhat bigger, just to handle the heavy load days. About 12,000 spots gets you there. So you build that now and have an expansion plan ready.

Building a parking structure that can one day expand with more floors upward is actually pretty easy. You simply design the foundation beforehand to handle all the future weight you think you'll need, then build it so that the support columns have a system that can add floors one by one whenever they're needed. You also design the ramps to keep going upward. It's done more often than people think.

Again, what do you mean by "easy access"? Unless Disney obtains right of way for some sort of elevated transportation system, they'll be using street-legal shuttles or buses to cross both Disney Way and Katella Ave.

I mean the shortest distance to get from parking to park gate. It is assumed that one wouldn't pass through the Esplanade if it isn't needed. The parking lot with the shortest walk to that gate would be from Pumbaa.
 

TP2000

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So, what's the barometer? If 50,000 fans sign a petition that's enough for Disney to cancel an attraction? Or should it be 100,000? What's the magic number?

Signing a change.org petition does absolutely nothing. It's like Tweeting a trendy hashtag when another 50 people are slaughtered by the Islamic State. It does absolutely nothing, but makes the Tweeter or petition signer feel politically correct.

My hunch is that a change.org petition would need to reach into several million people before it could begin to have an impact, because that would mean perhaps 100,000 of those 2 Million signers would stay away from buying the product. Maybe perhaps 10,000 of those would be AP's who let their passes lapse and stop buying them? But even then there would likely just be some sort of statement from Disney on the controversy, not any real reversal of a decision to remake an attraction.

Your assumption that the savedisney.com movement actually worked, or at least helped the process along, because it was tied directly to major shareholders of the Company is correct. An 28 year old Annual Passholder from Brea with a Tsum-Tsum fetish is very different than a major institutional shareholder.
 

TP2000

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Didn’t they say opening Summer of 17? So a January closing gives Disney 6-8 months to make that window.

How long do they need to uglify the building? All the other stuff could be made off site and moved in to the boiler room.

Don't forget that @GiveMeTheMusic said that exterior work would begin almost immediately. I imagine by September the building would be covered in scrim while they work on the exterior. You'd just need to leave a few cutouts for the elevator doors while the original show continues to operate inside.
 

Bob Harlem

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Personally, I can't wait for Broader Universe of Super Heroes Land.

Yeah the Universal Marvel contract prohibits the use of the name "Marvel" for anything in any park in the US (not just east coast), so I'm curious what the land's name will be. Super Hero Land/City?
 

Curious Constance

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Let us not forget that no one agrees on everything, and no matter what Disney announces there is going to be a group of people who aren't happy with it.
If Disney announced they are not going to add any Star Wars or Marvel to it's parks, certain people would be ecstatic! But a whole other group would be completely outraged.
So is Disney supposed to choose a certain group to always appease? Or should they just do what they feel is best for their business like any other company would do?
 

Variable

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Let us not forget that no one agrees on everything, and no matter what Disney announces there is going to be a group of people who aren't happy with it.
If Disney announced they are not going to add any Star Wars or Marvel to it's parks, certain people would be ecstatic! But a whole other group would be completely outraged.
So is Disney supposed to choose a certain group to always appease? Or should they just do what they feel is best for their business like any other company would do?

Well, these things, they are not mutually exclusive. An entertainment company has to respond to trends, consumers, or there isn't any business.
 

Curious Constance

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Super Hero City sounds...likely.

I personally don't care what they call it as long as me and Hans get that Super Hero Kissing Booth we've been wanting!!!

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Variable

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I'm not a comic book fan, but me and my family really enjoy Marvel movies and look forward to new movies that come out. I know we'd all enjoy a "Super Hero City" or whatever else they decide to call it.

Constance, this makes you a 'comic book fan' :)
You might not read them, but you're 'watching' them - it's the very core/nature/essence/origin.

Now then I don't think you are rabid. Rabid fans and demo wouldn't be nearly as nice as you are!
 

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