Free refills gone?

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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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It's not so much the soda, it's the HFCS. Americans drank Coke for decades without getting fat.

And a lot of foods that weren't processed and came straight from a farm.

However, this is getting WAY off-topic, so I will cease the sugar/diet discussion here.
 

21stamps

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It's not so much the soda, it's the HFCS. Americans drank Coke for decades without getting fat.

I can’t agree with you there. Many sodas do not contain HFCS.. same with off the shelf “juices”.. still horrible for you.
 

ninjaprincesst

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Everyone knows water is the most hydrating beverage but some people just like soda. Plus, they’re on vacation so they want to enjoy what they’re having.

Personally I do find only ever drinking water becomes a little boring so it’s nice to have an alternative too!
because some of us hate water, I don't like water at all and have to force down every drop, when i am on vacation Im not about to force water down, i't already bad enough I have to force myself to drink coke.
 

21stamps

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*Googles goetta.*

I need that right now.

Do you know what’s even better than a goetta and eggs breakfast?
A goetta and egg and hot salsa Grilled CHeese from Tom & Chee. De li Ci OUS.
Uber fattening.. and I don’t care. We order one of those, and one grilled cheese donut..then give half to the other person.
Heaven in a Grilled Cheese. ;) :)
 

jakeman

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Soda is the popular, and populist, scapegoat for those who don't understand the human body and the true problem - carbohydrates. There is no human biological need for carbohydrates. Yet you've been programmed that you need to eat them morning, noon, and night. Why is that? Because they are cheap, easy to make, and "make you feel good", perhaps? Easy to get you hooked on, maybe? Hmmm... I hear people say, "drink coffee, it's better for you". Yeah, after they add in a bunch of sweeteners, what's their point, exactly?

The good old fashioned American breakfast of eggs and bacon (and/or sausage) isn't actually the evil thing it's been made out to be. It's a heck of a lot better than eating toast, an english muffin, oatmeal, etc.

Below is a very large picture of the Citric Acid or Krebs Cycle. It's a fundamental part of energy generation in almost every cell in the human body. Every single molecule pictured below is a carbohydrate interacting with another compound to eventually produce energy that is needed to...you know...live.

1280px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg.png
 

21stamps

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Holiday World, Indiana.

So I found out.. I didn’t know that.. I do know that Coney Island (Cincinnati area) and Cedar Fair Parks.. and any zoo or museum or movie theater or indoor playground/ trampoline park that I’ve ever been to, do not offer unlimited free refills.
It’s nice to learn about Holifay World though!
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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Below is a very large picture of the Citric Acid or Krebs Cycle. It's a fundamental part of energy generation in almost every cell in the human body. Every single molecule pictured below is a carbohydrate interacting with another compound to eventually produce energy that is needed to...you know...live.

1280px-Citric_acid_cycle_with_aconitate_2.svg.png
Dang. No wonder I feel like Houston so often.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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My life changed the day I discovered fresh beer. We have several local breweries within 15 minutes of my house, so I can always have a growler or two fresh in the fridge. Haven't had a bottle or can in years.
If you really like fresh beer, brew it yourself. Then you can have all the "free" refills you want, any time you want.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
These "there are no signs" posts are rediculous

When you walk into a place of commerce... you don't need a sign to tell you "things are not free" - because we have a built in assumption that things that are SOMEONE ELSE'S are not free to take.

No one walks up to a store that has product out on the sidewalk to draw attention and says "oh look, no signs, no cashier out there, so I guess I don't have to pay!"

We have established social/commercial conventions people are trained to follow. We all understand that the condiment station is free to use to top off our food. We all understanding the straws and napkins are there without charge and intended for our use while buying from this store. We don't need signs that say "Do not take full stacks to use at home" - there is a convention that the vendor has put these out for their customer's convenience... not that they are a free for all.

When that convenience is overrun by people abusing the privilege, the operator will do things like keeping napkins behind the counter.

Drink refills really don't have a rock solid convention. It really does vary greatly depending on the store, location, etc. Many stores have taken a refill strategy as a courtesy.... many have it simply as a balance of not worth enforcing... and some do not allow it at all.

The argument of "the filling station is out here.. so its free" is a selfish one that really isn't founded in anything. The filling stations were moved out there to save labor cost - not to simplify refills. Refill policies still varied, not dictated by the machine location. (Notice the machines were placed NEAR the order counter by the chains??). The logic behind 'machines are out here, so we get refills' is as bad as saying "there is no cashier blocking the door, so I guess I can walk right out.."

The 'sign believers' logic is flawed. It supports the idea I can use the machines for free with any cup.. because there is no sign saying I must buy something from the counter right??? No one believes that... because the logic is narrowed and flawed because it ignores the established conventions.

In my travels, I still find refills to vary significantly. I don't not assume a table service includes free refills unless it states as such. I do not assume a drink counter includes free refills unless there is a sign stating as such. It's very common for locations limit refills to same visit now... but I still see plenty of locations (especially urban areas) to limit even further.
 

dieboy

Active Member
My life changed the day I discovered fresh beer. We have several local breweries within 15 minutes of my house, so I can always have a growler or two fresh in the fridge. Haven't had a bottle or can in years.
Yes fresh beer is nice. I'd agree there. I'm a picky beer drinker, so its hard to find something I like fresh.
I do thoroughly enjoy a bar made cherry coke (grenadine) every so often.
Regular soda/pop, doesn't do anything for me, no cravings at all, in fact sometimes its repulsive especially when i'm actually thirsty.
 

Goofyernmost

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My wife (20 years in the medical field) and I have done a lot of research around this. It's not wrong, unless you're a "nutritionist" or "registered dietician" or other such close-minded people who's jobs depend on getting people to consume carbs. I've gotten rid of almost all carbs from my diet. As a result, my weight is down, cholesterol is down, my mind is clearer, and I no longer have any sort of blood sugar swings after meals.
I have a daughter that cut out all carbs. Initially she lost weight, cholesterol was never a problem and she feels that her mind is clear. She is now putting on weight and still is no carb. It's my daughter so I can say this.... her mind is NOT clear. Carbs have been the thing that kept people alive and thriving and alert for thousands of years, the body craves it for a reason, it is needed to provide energy. As usual the middle is where the answer is. Balance of protein and carbs are an obvious answer. Extremes almost never solve any problem.
 

Model3 McQueen

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In the Parks
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I'm that guy also. I do drink it .. maybe once a month at the very very most. I live off of black coffee, water and beer :).

Hear Hear!

I just had a glass bottle of coke yesterday, with real sugar instead of the high fructose stuff - it was like god himself made that batch of Coca Cola just for me.

After 4 or 5 sequential days of weightlifting sessions and eating healthy I crave the weirdest things :hilarious:
 

Tom P.

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My opinion, and an honest question: How many people truly loved their first drink of soda? I'm betting not many.

I still remember the taste when trying Coke-a-Cola at a family friend's house. I was about 10. Tasted like nasty medicine. I did learn to like it in time, but I believe any of those chemical concoctions are a learned behavior. A kid won't guzzle down soda because he likes it - it is totally a learned social behavior.
No.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
My life changed the day I discovered fresh beer. We have several local breweries within 15 minutes of my house, so I can always have a growler or two fresh in the fridge. Haven't had a bottle or can in years.
My wife (20 years in the medical field) and I have done a lot of research around this. It's not wrong, unless you're a "nutritionist" or "registered dietician" or other such close-minded people who's jobs depend on getting people to consume carbs. I've gotten rid of almost all carbs from my diet. As a result, my weight is down, cholesterol is down, my mind is clearer, and I no longer have any sort of blood sugar swings after meals.

I’m not a dietician. But @jakeman responded better then I could have.
My life changed the day I discovered fresh beer. We have several local breweries within 15 minutes of my house, so I can always have a growler or two fresh in the fridge. Haven't had a bottle or can in years.

I hate to overuse this phrase. But just so we are clear. Canning a beer has zero impact on its freshness.
 

dreamfinder

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Forgive me if this has been brought up already, I only skimmed certain pages...but did disney ever fix the length of time the drinks run out of the machines? I remember seeing a family put a drink that had a barcode on the machine, and then tilt a thermas they brought with them under the fountain to fill up with soda and then they got two drinks by beating the system. I'm not in the food courts enough to see if anyone else has done this since then, or if it still even works. Always bothered me.

Pretty much since the RapidFill system was installed. Each scan of the chip dispenses the appropriate amount to fill the cup (16, 20 oz etc), then the timer starts. So if you fill your cup halfway with ice, and then add the soda, you might get limited to less than a full cup of soda. But if you are quick enough you can fill it up, drink a bunch, and then top it back off before the timer kicks in. I believe it applies across fountains, so if you did half Coke and half Barqs it remembers that you did 8.3oz of Coke and only lets you put in 7.7oz of Barqs.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I hate to overuse this phrase. But just so we are clear. Canning a beer has zero impact on its freshness.
"Fresh beer" is the term you use when you go to a brewery and fill up your glassware right from the brewer's tap.

Your statement is like saying "flash-freezing seafood right on the fishing boat has zero impact on its freshness." Okay, that's technically true. But you still don't refer to frozen fish as "fresh fish."
 
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