Free refills gone?

[jakeman]

My life changed the day I discovered fresh beer. We have several local breweries within 15 minutes of my house, so I can always have a growler or two fresh in the fridge. Haven't had a bottle or can in years.

Then you're missing out on a wide variety of flavors and styles by only drinking from growlers that generally lose their carbonation in about 72 hours, unless you have a way to carbonate your growlers, then more power to you.

I hate to overuse this phrase. But just so we are clear. Canning a beer has zero impact on its freshness.

This is true. Over a period of several months, flavors will degrade (especially hop flavors) but light and temperature are the main culprits of beer going "bad".

"Fresh beer" is the term you use when you go to a brewery and fill up your glassware right from the brewer's tap.

Perhaps in your area this is true, but that is not a technical term. Additionally, unless the tap is hooked directly to the Brite Tank, it's coming from a keg, just like a regular bar.

 

[xdan0920]

"Fresh beer" is the term you use when you go to a brewery and fill up your glassware right from the brewer's tap.

Your statement is like saying "flash-freezing seafood right on the fishing boat has zero impact on its freshness." Okay, that's technically true. But you still don't refer to frozen fish as "fresh fish."

No. That’s just false. Fresh beer is beer that is fresh. Wether canned, or bottled or on tap.

 

[21stamps]

I have a daughter that cut out all carbs. Initially she lost weight, cholesterol was never a problem and she feels that her mind is clear. She is now putting on weight and still is no carb. It's my daughter so I can say this.... her mind is NOT clear. Carbs have been the thing that kept people alive and thriving and alert for thousands of years, the body craves it for a reason, it is needed to provide energy. As usual the middle is where the answer is. Balance of protein and carbs are an obvious answer. Extremes almost never solve any problem.

The Atkins diet was one of the worst trends ever, and lead to a bunch of spinoffs and mindsets to where people believed that all carbs were bad. SoBe diet was a lot better and somewhere in the middle. The most important thing is- there is Good Carbs, and then there’s Horrible Carbs.. diets can come and go.. but changing a lifestyle to strive to include mostly good carbs..that’s where the answer really is.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Then you're missing out on a wide variety of flavors and styles by only drinking from growlers that generally lose their carbonation in about 72 hours, unless you have a way to carbonate your growlers, then more power to you.

I only drink beer on the weekends, so swinging by the brewery on my way home from work on a Friday afternoon and grabbing a growler that stays fresh for 72 hours suits my purposes just fine.

I'm not sure what your point is about "variety." I could get a different type of beer every week for two years and never repeat one. As I said, I have many local breweries in the area and each one has something like ten brews on tap at once, always rotating. They also have keg exchange programs with other brewers in the region where they'll have one or two "guest kegs" on tap at any given time.

 

[jakeman]

I only drink beer on the weekends, so swinging by the brewery on my way home from work on a Friday afternoon and grabbing a growler that stays fresh for 72 hours suits my purposes just fine.

I'm not sure what your point is about "variety." I could get a different type of beer every week for two years and never repeat one. As I said, I have many local breweries in the area and each one has something like ten brews on tap at once, always rotating. They also have keg exchange programs with other brewers in the region where they'll have one or two "guest kegs" on tap at any given time.

That's great if your consumption is small enough that your local breweries can supply you with enough variety.

That wouldn't work for me though nor would I want to be limited to just the dozens of local breweries in my immediate area. I drink a beer once and am ready to move onto a new style or offering.

Different strokes, no worries.

 

[John park hopper]

This post has strayed so far from free soda refills to drinking beer; think you should start a preferred beer post -----nothing wrong with beer

 

[Goofyernmost]

The Atkins diet was one of the worst trends ever, and lead to a bunch of spinoffs and mindsets to where people believed that all carbs were bad. SoBe diet was a lot better and somewhere in the middle. The most important thing is- there is Good Carbs, and then there’s Horrible Carbs.. diets can come and go.. but changing a lifestyle to strive to include mostly good carbs..that’s where the answer really is.

Could be, I guess, but, if you ask 50 different people what the best way is, you will probably get 50 different answers. At least a few of those have to be wrong. Back a few years ago I lost over 85 pounds and didn't give up anything but quantities. I didn't care about good carbs or bad carbs, cholesterol, fats, proteins or anything else other then what I liked to eat, taste wise and satisfaction wise. That worked too. It is what ever is good for the individual. Eggs are a prime example of that dilemma. Eggs have gone for good to bad to good to bad to good to bad about a dozen times in my lifetime. Only one of those options is correct, however, no group can agree. I love eggs and I eat them. I am going to die of something, no matter what, I might as well go out happy.

 

[LAKid53]

Soda is the popular, and populist, scapegoat for those who don't understand the human body and the true problem - carbohydrates. There is no human biological need for carbohydrates. Yet you've been programmed that you need to eat them morning, noon, and night. Why is that? Because they are cheap, easy to make, and "make you feel good", perhaps? Easy to get you hooked on, maybe? Hmmm... I hear people say, "drink coffee, it's better for you". Yeah, after they add in a bunch of sweeteners, what's their point, exactly?

The good old fashioned American breakfast of eggs and bacon (and/or sausage) isn't actually the evil thing it's been made out to be. It's a heck of a lot better than eating toast, an english muffin, oatmeal, etc.

As a runner, I'm calling BS on this. Carbs are absolutely essential to life. Our muscles need them for energy. Glycogen is stored in tissue and the liver as carbohydrates for fuel. Deplete that store and not replenish it? The brain starts shutting down the body. Remember, the brain needs glucose to function. And that's what we refer to as "hitting the wall". When you've used up the stored glycogen in both your tissues and liver. You literally can't move.

The best diet as far as fueling your body? 60% complex carbs, 25% lean protein and 15% healthy fats.

 

[xdan0920]

The Atkins diet was one of the worst trends ever, and lead to a bunch of spinoffs and mindsets to where people believed that all carbs were bad. SoBe diet was a lot better and somewhere in the middle. The most important thing is- there is Good Carbs, and then there’s Horrible Carbs.. diets can come and go.. but changing a lifestyle to strive to include mostly good carbs..that’s where the answer really is.

Also false.

 

[21stamps]

Also false.

Not false. There are purely empty calories aka bad carbs i.e Coke.. and there are good carbs/required calories.
A diet fad is never the answer to staying slim or fit.. only a lifestyle can do that.

 

[Tom P.]

This thread went from free refills at Disney, to whether or not soda is bad for you, to what defines fresh beer, to whether or not carbs are bad for you. In one day.

Just saying.

 

[Tom P.]

It's gaming the system. Nothing wrong with that. Just raises the prices for everyone else.

I have a challenge for you. Walk into any McDonald's. Order some food and a drink to eat in the restaurant. Then ask them if refills are free. I will bet you $5 they say "yes."

 

[Kamikaze]

Not false. There are purely empty calories aka bad carbs i.e Coke.. and there are good carbs/required calories.

Incorrect. A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. The only thing that matters is CICO.

You can eat whatever you want to get those calories, and still lose weight as long as you eat at a deficit.

 

[Kamikaze]

It's gaming the system. Nothing wrong with that. Just raises the prices for everyone else.

Still wrong.

Even at a full serve restaurant - including WDW and DLR - when they come and refill your soft drink (not including alcohol and fresh brewed drinks) they don't charge you each time. Its buy one and get free refills.

 

[Smooth]

Best way to lose weight....



Move more. Eat less.
Move more. Eat less.
Move more. Eat less.

 

[Kamikaze]

Best way to lose weight....

Move more. Eat less.
Move more. Eat less.
Move more. Eat less.

But don't eat too little to put your body into starvation mode. You have to eat at a roughly 500 cal deficit to see the most gain on a day to day basis.

 

[21stamps]

Incorrect. A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. The only thing that matters is CICO.

You can eat whatever you want to get those calories, and still lose weight as long as you eat at a deficit.

Here’s a label for a 20oz Coca-Cola

There is not one positive thing listed below.. it is strictly empty calories.. and it’s more than half of someone’s sugar allowance for an entire day. If you drink 1 20oz Coke per day and then only eat once per day.. your body will end up storing fat.

 

[note2001]

Here’s a label for a 20oz Coca-Cola

There is not one positive thing listed below.. it is strictly empty calories.. and it’s more than half of someone’s sugar allowance for an entire day. If you drink 1 20oz Coke per day and then only eat once per day.. your body will end up storing fat.
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Like the "edit this item" link at the bottom.
Best way to edit the bottle of coke - pour it over some ben & jerrys. If I were to have that sugar and calories, I want to love it.

 

[note2001]

This thread went from free refills at Disney, to whether or not soda is bad for you, to what defines fresh beer, to whether or not carbs are bad for you. In one day.

Just saying.

It's a thread about Disney drink refills. Would there be any other way for such a thread to go?
Just be glad no one has mentioned strollers ... yet. (that one doesn't count)

 

[Kamikaze]

Here’s a label for a 20oz Coca-Cola

There is not one positive thing listed below.. it is strictly empty calories.. and it’s more than half of someone’s sugar allowance for an entire day. If you drink 1 20oz Coke per day and then only eat once per day.. your body will end up storing fat.
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As long as you eat at a caloric deficit, it doesn't matter what you eat.

Are some things better for you than others? Yes. But that is completely a separate issue than weight gain/loss.