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[21stamps]

As long as you eat at a caloric deficit, it doesn't matter what you eat.

Are some things better for you than others? Yes. But that is completely a separate issue than weight gain/loss.

It is not a sustainable lifestyle to substitute drinking empty processed sugars for nutrients found in food.
The person will eventually need to eat more, and they will gain weight.

 

[LAKid53]

As long as you eat at a caloric deficit, it doesn't matter what you eat.

Are some things better for you than others? Yes. But that is completely a separate issue than weight gain/loss.

Actually, it matters GREATLY what you eat. Vitamins and minerals help shore up bones, heal wounds, and bolster your immune system. They also convert food into energy, and repair cellular damage. A low calorie diet with little regards for nutrients is a disaster. The problem with the American diet is both the amount of calories consumed and what is consumed. And please distinguish between carbs. Complex carbohydrates - fruits, vegetables, whole grains, beans, legumes, are essential to the proper nutrition of our "machine". Simple carbs are garbage.

 

[Tom P.]

You do it. Go talk to the manager next time you are at Macdonalds. The burden is on you.

Not hardly. You're the one who made the false claim. You're the one saying others are doing something wrong and "gaming the system." So prove it.

 

[xdan0920]

Here’s a label for a 20oz Coca-Cola

There is not one positive thing listed below.. it is strictly empty calories.. and it’s more than half of someone’s sugar allowance for an entire day. If you drink 1 20oz Coke per day and then only eat once per day.. your body will end up storing fat.
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False. False false false. Please no one listen to this person.

 

[xdan0920]

As long as you eat at a caloric deficit, it doesn't matter what you eat.

Are some things better for you than others? Yes. But that is completely a separate issue than weight gain/loss.

Correct. Losing weight is simple. Being a healthy human is a touch more complicated.

 

[21stamps]

False. False false false. Please no one listen to this person.

False? Can you tell me one or more “good”things listed on that label?

 

[21stamps]

Correct. Losing weight is simple. Being a healthy human is a touch more complicated.

Maintaining a fit lifestyle is not the same as “losing weight”

I can go on an extreme diet, which I have for every wedding that I’ve been in, and almost every vacation that I took pre-kid.. I lived on pepper crusted turkey breast, Muenster cheese, black coffee caffeine, and water for a week. I’d lose 5lbs as a “preemptive strike” against the bachelorette weekend or vacation weight gain ahead.
Guess what? I always put that 5lbs right back on, and I knew I would.. which was the entire point of a preemptive diet.

 

[Tom P.]

You prove it.

You must have excelled on the debate team.

 

[xdan0920]

False? Can you tell me one or more “good”things listed on that label?

No. You’re wrong that drinking a soda and eating a meal will cause you to store fat. It won’t. Unless the meal is 1600kc.

 

[xdan0920]

Maintaining a fit lifestyle is not the same as “losing weight”

I can go on an extreme diet, which I have for every wedding that I’ve been in, and almost every vacation that I took pre-kid.. I lived on pepper crusted turkey breast, Muenster cheese, black coffee caffeine, and water for a week. I’d lose 5lbs as a “preemptive strike” against the bachelorette weekend or vacation weight gain ahead.
Guess what? I always put that 5lbs right back on, and I knew I would.. which was the entire point of a preemptive diet.

Jebus. You’re dense.

 

[21stamps]

No. You’re wrong that drinking a soda and eating a meal will cause you to store fat. It won’t. Unless the meal is 1600kc.

Drinking soda and eating only unhealthy foods, even if under your daily allowance, will cause someone to gain weight when one day they can no longer sustain that type of diet. This will happen. Your body needs proper nutrition at some point.. someone doesn’t need to be a health nut, but they can not live on calories which are void of any nutrients. Sure, they can be skinny-fat for a time, but they won’t be fit... and it’s not sustainable.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

As a runner, I'm calling BS on this. Carbs are absolutely essential to life. Our muscles need them for energy. Glycogen is stored in tissue and the liver as carbohydrates for fuel. Deplete that store and not replenish it? The brain starts shutting down the body. Remember, the brain needs glucose to function. And that's what we refer to as "hitting the wall". When you've used up the stored glycogen in both your tissues and liver. You literally can't move.

The best diet as far as fueling your body? 60% complex carbs, 25% lean protein and 15% healthy fats.

Not true in the slightest bit. If “our brain starts shutting down the body,” how would those on the ketogenic diet survive?

We start producing ketone bodies which our brain can use for fuel. Some argue a ketogenic diet is healthier than a carb heavy diet.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Below is a very large picture of the Citric Acid or Krebs Cycle. It's a fundamental part of energy generation in almost every cell in the human body. Every single molecule pictured below is a carbohydrate interacting with another compound to eventually produce energy that is needed to...you know...live.

You’re missing quite a large portion of the picture. Several amino acids can be converted into these intermediates to maintain blood sugar levels.

 

[21stamps]

Not true in the slightest bit. If “our brain starts shutting down the body,” how would those on the ketogenic diet survive?

We start producing ketone bodies which our brain can use for fuel. Some argue a ketogenic diet is healthier than a carb heavy diet.

People said the same thing about Atkins which is basically a Keto style diet..
It didn’t work out too well in the long run.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

People said the same thing about Atkins which is basically a Keto style diet..
It didn’t work out too well in the long run.

Okay.

 

[xdan0920]

Drinking soda and eating only unhealthy foods, even if under your daily allowance, will cause someone to gain weight when one day they can no longer sustain that type of diet. This will happen. Your body needs proper nutrition at some point.. someone doesn’t need to be a health nut, but they can not live on calories which are void of any nutrients. Sure, they can be skinny-fat for a time, but they won’t be fit... and it’s not sustainable.

This is idiotic. You are completely changing what you originally said. I give in. You’re right.

 

[21stamps]

Okay.

It’s not.. or it did.. which one is the “okay” and eye roll addressing?

 

[DisneyDoctor]

It’s not.. or it did.. which one is the “okay” and eye roll addressing?

The eye roll is to you.

 

[Tom P.]

Ok, gaming the soda system guy, have a Magically Day!

When did this become about me? We get refillable mugs at WDW, so are clearly entitled to all the refills we want. I virtually never eat inside a fast food restaurant, so refills are not an issue. I am just disputing your premise in general.

 

[Tom P.]

How this forum feels sometimes: