EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[Homemade Imagineering]

From a show perspective, Imagination needs it 10 billion times more than SSE. At least the first half of SSE is still world class, Figment on the other hand is terrible start to finish. Structurally however, I’d say the stakes are much higher for SSE.

So it really depends. One is likely more important to Disney than it is to us, as they see SSE in its current state as a ticking time bomb. Imagination can skate by just fine with its 40 + year old track despite the fact the current iteration represents bad show even while operating to its full potential.

 

[ChrisFL]

Even then, OLED screens seem like a luxury to have on rides. Many older screens have been replaced by cheaper LED/LCD screens that do not have good black levels to them.

I think the cost and lifespan of OLED's is prohibitive still?

 

[JSouth25]

I think the cost and lifespan of OLED's is prohibitive still?

I didn’t realize Disney used OLEDs at their parks at all. It’s an awesome technology, but it doesn’t seem practical for a theme park, unless they’re using a more durable type of OLED screen or they switch them out often?

 

[SonnyEcipse]

Did y'all see this yet? HUGE how this was at least planned at one point.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Pretty sure that’s Larry Nikolai art. Looks very similar to the stuff seen in The Imagineering Workout book and his FB & Insta pages. Could be wrong on that though. Wish we knew the source but still very cool to see!

Truth be told, I’m pretty positive that the proposals & scenes David Mumford (the original show lead on the 02 revamp) had for the attraction were possibly different before Kathy Mangum took over his position after his passing. Have nothing to prove that ‘yet’ atleast (until our Lost Media source shares anything more), granted.. but I’d be surprised to find if that actually wasn’t the case, that’s for sure.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Did y'all see this yet? HUGE how this was at least planned at one point.

Tbh, I’m not ‘that’ surprised.. considering that tv ended up playing reused footage from the Mirage activity in the early 90s revamp to the ImageWorks and both the “Dean Finder” reference on the lab door in the transition to the sound lab, and the picture of Dreamfinder in the Blast from the Friends of Figment scene in the end, where his silhouette on the Dreamcatching Machine is seen on the music notes for one of the Figments displayed there, but yeah.
Still neat nonetheless.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Did y'all see this yet? HUGE how this was at least planned at one point.

Could have just reused footage of Joe Rhode as Dreamfinder from the theater of the arts section..

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Could have just reused footage of Joe Rhode as Dreamfinder from the theater of the arts section..

I agree. Though, I want to clarify that this was actually used for the ‘Dreamfinder’s School of Drama’ activity in the ImageWorks. One of the many different films you could take place in via a chromakey/blue screen effect. (A western, space adventure, fantasy, etc.)
Though interesting fact regarding the Performing Arts/Theatre scene in the ride. Something that George Wilkins mentions in composing the music for said scene in a RetroMagic interview. There was actually supposed to be rotoscoped laser animation of Figment dancing with a ballerina in the scene. Ultimately the animations they went with, when the ride opened in ‘83, were actually the original test animations made for the rig/tech they used for the scene. One of the good number of things, in Disney restoring the ride back to its former glory, they ought to enhance/add back in/include.

 

[Brer Panther]

the picture of Dreamfinder in the Blast from the Friends of Figment scene

There's a picture of Dreamfinder in there?

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

There's a picture of Dreamfinder in there?

Yep!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

There's a picture of Dreamfinder in there?

From orlandoparkspot
you have to zoom in but there's an odd shape in the front seat but, you can see Figment's profile..

 

[Quietmouse]

So I didn’t take the time to read thru the hundreds of pages…but, is figment getting a reboot or nah?

and when I say reboot, I know the rumors at one point a decade ago was dream finder returning and it being restored to an updated version of the og version of journey into your imagination.

So is this ultimately still happening, or is it just basically still in the hopes and dreams stage still lol ?

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

So I didn’t take the time to read thru the hundreds of pages…but, is figment getting a reboot or nah?

and when I say reboot, I know the rumors at one point a decade ago was dream finder returning and it being restored to an updated version of the og version of journey into your imagination.

So is this ultimately still happening, or is it just basically still in the hopes and dreams stage still lol ?

No one knows.

 

[Moth]

So I didn’t take the time to read thru the hundreds of pages…but, is figment getting a reboot or nah?

and when I say reboot, I know the rumors at one point a decade ago was dream finder returning and it being restored to an updated version of the og version of journey into your imagination.

So is this ultimately still happening, or is it just basically still in the hopes and dreams stage still lol ?

Nothing is happening until the suits put a budget behind a plan they can agree on.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Not that this is anything important but someone has uploaded the instrumental score of JIYI 2.0.

 

[Quietmouse]

Nothing is happening until the suits put a budget behind a plan they can agree on.

So they all want to improve the ride, but can’t agree on how much money should be spent ?

 

[Moth]

So they all want to improve the ride, but can’t agree on how much money should be spent ?

They all want to improve what is currently in there but can't agree on what plan to enact.

 

[Figments Friend]

The plan should be this -

Build on the legacy that was the Original ‘Journey Into Imagination’ Attraction.
Start there, and expand on what that masterpiece set into motion.
It still resonates today.

Recreate sets and some scenes that have a similar spirit to the Original, but ‘enhanced’ with today’s tech.
And I am not talking about just screens.
Enough already.

NO idiotic Pixar IP - it is NOT NEEDED or wanted!
This Pavilion already has its own self created IP that fit like a glove, is dearly missed, and needs to be reintroduced.
( that is the Original non-annoying Figment and his creator, the Dreamfinder )

No half measures.
Go big, or go home.
Healthy budget, NO cutbacks or inter-Company politics meddling.

Unique ride system.
WOW your Guests like you used to and CAN DO with the right team in place.
Make it happen.

Allow Tony Baxter to advise on this project and have a ACTIVE role in making this redo a reality.
Stop blocking his influence - he WANTS to see this Attraction become the imaginative delight it USED to be.
He is ready and has been waiting !

Most importantly - make it IMAGINATIVE and inspiring.
There is so much potential here, it could become a absolutely astounding experience.



No excuses.
Get to it.


The dragon has spoken.


-

 

[Bocabear]

This!!!

 

[Streetway]

They all want to improve what is currently in there but can't agree on what plan to enact.

Infighting bascially? I hope the right plans are greenlit. cross our fingers for dreamfinder and figment.