Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

The Leader of the Club

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I am BEGGING for WoLšŸ˜­

Another thing that popped into my head thatā€™d be an easy win with fans in the meantime, would be a Dreamfinder & Figment 4D film for Magic Eye. Something they could announce at Destination D alongside an SSE redo, as an obvious tease theyā€™ve got bigger plans for the pavilion.
I worry that if Figment moves to the Magic Eye the actual ride would be earmarked for IP
 

Homemade Imagineering

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I worry that if Figment moves to the Magic Eye the actual ride would be earmarked for IP
Maybe so, but if Inside Out were added Iā€™d be more concerned thatā€™d seep into the attraction itself more than anything. Neither are likely scenarios imo, weā€™ll prob get something completely diff for Magic Eye, unrelated to IO or Figment. It would be interesting if they decided on gutting Magic Eye for queue space for version 4, IF they decide on using a decent chunk of the Imageworks for a preshow
 

Rodj

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I fear they are once again going to mutilate a classic, replacing highly detailed physical sets & beautifully painted backdrops with flat projection mapped ā€œcanvasesā€ and OLED screens.
Even then, OLED screens seem like a luxury to have on rides. Many older screens have been replaced by cheaper LED/LCD screens that do not have good black levels to them.
 

MagicEye99

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How is it a more pressing issue? Itā€™s still one of the best rides at the resort.
I also fail to see how this is the case. I understand the supposed structural issues that need to be addressed, but other than those and the descent being updated, nothing needs to be, or SHOULD be, touched in SSE. I could maybe justify a few tweaks in show scenes on the back half of the ride, but thatā€™s it. Also, last I checked, SSE was last touched up in 2007. Figment was butchered all the way back in 2002.

JII is a far more pressing issue, with all due respect.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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How is it a more pressing issue? Itā€™s still one of the best rides at the resort.
I also fail to see how this is the case. I understand the supposed structural issues that need to be addressed, but other than those and the descent being updated, nothing needs to be, or SHOULD be, touched in SSE. I could maybe justify a few tweaks in show scenes on the back half of the ride, but thatā€™s it. Also, last I checked, SSE was last touched up in 2007. Figment was butchered all the way back in 2002.

JII is a far more pressing issue, with all due respect.

The ride system needs attention desperately and has for years. Outside of that, I would tend to agree, Imagination should get money first.
 

MagicEye99

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The ride system needs attention desperately and has for years (a decade?).
I definitely donā€™t disagree that it needs attention, and they shouldā€™ve been on it ages ago. I just feel as though JII is also desperately in need of attention, like yesterday. Ideally, both would go down at the same time, but current Disney likely wouldnā€™t do something like that. At this point, itā€™d be nice if they just gave either one some attention haha.
 

Haymarket2008

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How is it a more pressing issue? Itā€™s still one of the best rides at the resort.

The lack of descent/finale is genuinely terrible and it needs a general sprucing up the likes of which it hasnā€™t seen in its 40+ years of operation. And itā€™s the crown jewel of the park.

Iā€™m not saying Figment doesnā€™t need a top to bottom rethink, but IMHO, SSE deserves to cut the line.
 

James Alucobond

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The lack of descent/finale is genuinely terrible and it needs a general sprucing up the likes of which it hasnā€™t seen in its 40+ years of operation. And itā€™s the crown jewel of the park.

Iā€™m not saying Figment doesnā€™t need a top to bottom rethink, but IMHO, SSE deserves to cut the line.
This. Figment is kind of embarrassing and blah, but Spaceship Earth is the parkā€™s icon and thesis statement. It also needs extensive mechanical work, not just a narrative overhaul. Ideally, both would happen ASAP, but SSE definitely has first dibs in my book.
 

Homemade Imagineering

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From a show perspective, Imagination needs it 10 billion times more than SSE. At least the first half of SSE is still world class, Figment on the other hand is terrible start to finish. Structurally however, Iā€™d say the stakes are much higher for SSE.

So it really depends. One is likely more important to Disney than it is to us, as they see SSE in its current state as a ticking time bomb. Imagination can skate by just fine with its 40 + year old track despite the fact the current iteration represents bad show even while operating to its full potential.
 

JSouth25

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I think the cost and lifespan of OLED's is prohibitive still?
I didnā€™t realize Disney used OLEDs at their parks at all. Itā€™s an awesome technology, but it doesnā€™t seem practical for a theme park, unless theyā€™re using a more durable type of OLED screen or they switch them out often?
 

Inspired Figment

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Pretty sure thatā€™s Larry Nikolai art. Looks very similar to the stuff seen in The Imagineering Workout book and his FB & Insta pages. Could be wrong on that though. Wish we knew the source but still very cool to see!

Truth be told, Iā€™m pretty positive that the proposals & scenes David Mumford (the original show lead on the 02 revamp) had for the attraction were possibly different before Kathy Mangum took over his position after his passing. Have nothing to prove that ā€˜yetā€™ atleast (until our Lost Media source shares anything more), granted.. but Iā€™d be surprised to find if that actually wasnā€™t the case, thatā€™s for sure.
 
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Inspired Figment

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Did y'all see this yet? HUGE how this was at least planned at one point.


Tbh, Iā€™m not ā€˜thatā€™ surprised.. considering that tv ended up playing reused footage from the Mirage activity in the early 90s revamp to the ImageWorks and both the ā€œDean Finderā€ reference on the lab door in the transition to the sound lab, and the picture of Dreamfinder in the Blast from the Friends of Figment scene in the end, where his silhouette on the Dreamcatching Machine is seen on the music notes for one of the Figments displayed there, but yeah.
Still neat nonetheless.
 
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Inspired Figment

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Could have just reused footage of Joe Rhode as Dreamfinder from the theater of the arts section..

I agree. Though, I want to clarify that this was actually used for the ā€˜Dreamfinderā€™s School of Dramaā€™ activity in the ImageWorks. One of the many different films you could take place in via a chromakey/blue screen effect. (A western, space adventure, fantasy, etc.)
Though interesting fact regarding the Performing Arts/Theatre scene in the ride. Something that George Wilkins mentions in composing the music for said scene in a RetroMagic interview. There was actually supposed to be rotoscoped laser animation of Figment dancing with a ballerina in the scene. Ultimately the animations they went with, when the ride opened in ā€˜83, were actually the original test animations made for the rig/tech they used for the scene. One of the good number of things, in Disney restoring the ride back to its former glory, they ought to enhance/add back in/include.
 

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