Tom
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OMG!!!! I completely forgot about your little deal at EPCOT Center! Oh George....you're sitting on such a wealth of knowledge (and likely the locations of all footings).
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EPCOT Resorts Cancelled Monorail Loop
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OMG!!!! I completely forgot about your little deal at EPCOT Center! Oh George....you're sitting on such a wealth of knowledge (and likely the locations of all footings).
If I can't get a material takeoff and labor quote there is no way your are getting your footer proof.
If I can't get a material takeoff and labor quote there is no way your are getting your footer proof.
Pesky thing, facts and figures. Much easier to be vague and nebulous.....
Because they are big footers and hard to verify document.
Apparently, it matters to the OP, because he's "discovered" hidden ones. Or hasn't....
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/epcot-resorts-cancelled-monorail-loop.862722/#post-5409825
Florida does not really have bedrock. For something like a monorail you are either driving friction piles or pouring a large enough slab for the soil to resist the load.
American Adventures war wagon had to go down 180ft to dig into something stable. Spaceship earth 200ft.
Yep. It takes a ways before you hit anything resembling bed rock. Quite often the best you can do is sedimentary lime rock. In many cases you are driving what are know as friction piles. These resist the load simply from the friction produced by the surrounding soil.
Tom
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Go deep or go wide. Either take the load down to something stable, or distribute it over a large enough area that the earth can handle it. Choice A is better, and as you guys know and have said, has been the typical method at WDW.
Spaceship Earth has a large number of piles, if I remember correctly.
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Apologies, I come from up north where bedrock is the norm. I hereby would like revise "bedrock" to "geologically stable medium/condition."
Every time I read about this argument I begin to hear the tune from "Magical Mystery Tour" by the Beatles imposed with the lyrics of "Magic Monorail Piles"
The OP seems to spend a lot of energy trying to prove the existence of these footers and incorporate them into a comprehensive plan for monorail expansion, albeit one that does not exist on paper. The existence/nonexistence of these footers is not a make or break factor on the question of monorail expansion. If they actually do exist, monorail expansion does not just suddenly become feasible or the most desirable alternative for improvements to WDW transportation.
I summon @Timon
He is the one who originally posted a pic of the footer under construction!
And @raven posted that they even cleared a path for it!
Please, O knowledgable ones post your information as mine had been guesswork based on a vague memory of what you posted a while ago. Please help settle this!
He is the one who originally posted a pic of the footer under construction!
And @raven posted that they even cleared a path for it!
Please, O knowledgable ones post your information as mine had been guesswork based on a vague memory of what you posted a while ago. Please help settle this!
First, so what if there was a plan to expand the monorails 15 years ago? There were plans for Beastly Kingdom, Hyperion Wharf, etc. Doesn't make it any more relevant today....
Second, this is your decade-long obsession. Stop referring to everyone else for your supposed research. Quite frankly it's perhaps one of the few paths left for you to gain a modicum of belief in this whatever. So perhaps actually providing concrete facts and figures instead of decades old articles, pamphlets or supposed photos of buried footers might get you further.
Second, this is your decade-long obsession. Stop referring to everyone else for your supposed research. Quite frankly it's perhaps one of the few paths left for you to gain a modicum of belief in this whatever. So perhaps actually providing concrete facts and figures instead of decades old articles, pamphlets or supposed photos of buried footers might get you further.
Tom
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I heard that at one time someone in the Disney organization wanted to build an actual city once the MK was open. I believe there's evidence of this somewhere, perhaps even a couple TV episodes and a number of photos.
I'm going to see if I can find any of that long lost footage, and see if maybe Disney will want to look into building it again.
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