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EPCOT Resorts Cancelled Monorail Loop
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orky8
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This is exactly the point - in 1998, Disney said something besides busses has to be done soon. Here we are, 15 years later and nothing... Footer, no footer -- it really doesn't matter. There is always a plan, but unfortunately with TDO these days, if that plan requires investment, then it will simply remain a plan. We all (well, most) of us want the monorail expanded and for Disney to be Disney again, but it just ain't happening. Not in Florida at least. TDA is doing pretty good work though.
You hit the nail on the head. I couldn't have summarized it better. Some accept this as the new reality. I prefer protest and not show acceptance. Things only get worse if the masses keep accepting less.
Why do you keep saying that I think this. Go back and count the number of times I said it didn't matter. I said that a least a dozen times between the two threads. I never said it matters in the least. I did say that it might be helpful, though.
I never said I discovered hidden ones. It was Timor who posted a while back showing pictures of it at construction. I've been looking for it but I can't find it. I think I know where they are, based on the EC blueprints, satellite imagery, and the monorail specs.
Wrong, again. I only learned about the footers this year. I learned it from several people here. It's been discussed - not by me, but other people here without my involvement for years.
Thank you. At least someone here has common sense. They keep saying I said things I never said and seem fixated on irrelevancy.
My latest research tells me that they DID, in fact, build the monorail extension to the Studios during the early 90's. Unfortunately, Animal "drove" a train off its uncompleted track. The flying train crash landed inside DHS and caused a chain reaction of havoc that its repercussions are felt till this day.
The system was about half completed. Animal was in a hurry to get to Muppet Studios at DHS for a shooting, so he decided to drive a monorail on the DHS expansion route that was still under construction then. The fact that the track was partially completed and ended abruptly before entering DHS did not deter Animal. To make up for the missing track, Animal made the train move at at speeds faster than what is even possible, and send the train flying - with its aerodynamic shape - off the tracks, literally.
The train actually flew a good distance before crash landing. It actually made it all the way to the Muppet Studios inside DHS! The crash set off an explosion and fire that destroyed the Great Muppet Movie Ride (that was under construction and nearly complete) and also destroyed Dick Tracy's Crime Stoppers (also under construction). The blast was so bad that it almost also destroyed the Hollowood Hotel (you can see the where the blast hit from the side of the building that's all burnt).
Despite the chaos and destruction, Animal made it out from the blast unscathed and on time for the shooting he was in a rush to get to in the first place. However, since this incident, Disney management decided never to mix Muppets with monorail ever again, as the two combined is a recipe for disaster. It was thereby decided to permanently dismantle what was left of the DHS monorail extension and keep its southern terminus at EC, where it is at a safe distance away from impeding Muppet mayhem.
The system was about half completed. Animal was in a hurry to get to Muppet Studios at DHS for a shooting, so he decided to drive a monorail on the DHS expansion route that was still under construction then. The fact that the track was partially completed and ended abruptly before entering DHS did not deter Animal. To make up for the missing track, Animal made the train move at at speeds faster than what is even possible, and send the train flying - with its aerodynamic shape - off the tracks, literally.
The train actually flew a good distance before crash landing. It actually made it all the way to the Muppet Studios inside DHS! The crash set off an explosion and fire that destroyed the Great Muppet Movie Ride (that was under construction and nearly complete) and also destroyed Dick Tracy's Crime Stoppers (also under construction). The blast was so bad that it almost also destroyed the Hollowood Hotel (you can see the where the blast hit from the side of the building that's all burnt).
Despite the chaos and destruction, Animal made it out from the blast unscathed and on time for the shooting he was in a rush to get to in the first place. However, since this incident, Disney management decided never to mix Muppets with monorail ever again, as the two combined is a recipe for disaster. It was thereby decided to permanently dismantle what was left of the DHS monorail extension and keep its southern terminus at EC, where it is at a safe distance away from impeding Muppet mayhem.
freediverdude
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Ok, someone has WAYYY too much time on their hands. Go clean the bathroom, lol.
This has truly crossed over into the surreal. If the OP isn't making claims about buried footers or secret plans to expand the monorail, then he's stating others posted them and thus must agree with his premise. And when pushed to provide a detailed plan with actual facts and figures, he is suddenly being persecuted by the disbelievers or those simply willing to accept the Disney line....
All of this to say, either post your plan, or stop taking other people to task for doubting it. You've been on this track for over a decade now, and it's passed the line of being a quaint obsession.
All of this to say, either post your plan, or stop taking other people to task for doubting it. You've been on this track for over a decade now, and it's passed the line of being a quaint obsession.
I would love to discuss my plan. Why this became a footer debate is beyond me. My evidence is the overlay I made. That convinced me, but it doesn't really matter one way or the other. Besides that, I have no other evidence, but I'm convinced. I, like everyone else here, would LOVE to see something official, but I have none right now. I read from various sources, some from within the company at the time, but I searched and can't find or remember where I read it from. To me, it's a fact that might help but not necessary. If others have a hard time accepting it, why is it now my problem?
orky8
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Hey, there I agree with you. But, Disney doesn't care about us protesting on the interwebs -- the only protest they care about is revenue, so vote with your feet and avoid WDW as much as you can (which is hard because we all love the place, even with the current worts). Unfortunately, they aren't have trouble getting the turnstiles to click even though they keep offering an inferior product.
Oh, they'll care as market share is lost. If not, the shareholders WILL install a management that does. Uni has begun to take some of Disney's market share. This will deepen as things get worse.
unkadug
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The problem with that theory is that for every fanboi complaining on the internet there is a million paying guests that simply could not be bothered by it.
Goofyernmost
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OK, for that one I'll need a link.
I'll bet that is why the Residential Street had houses that only had a front half. It all makes sense now.
That's strange that Disney can be losing market share but have a huge demand for new facilities, which you are using to defray the cost of your proposed monorail expansion.
danlb_2000
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Thanks for the reminder. Lol.But we have already established that logic has no place in this thread.
Squirrel!!!!!!!!
orky8
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Disney stock is at an all-time high. As far as the shareholders are concerned, current management is doing an excellent job pumping the stock. Yes, eventually sucking the value out of WDW will backfire, but that time is a ways away from getting us the changes we need.
The "creatives" own the company now. They want management to go back to basics. Sucking the value out is not what the new owners want. These new owners are the Jobs family and George Lucas. Management is acting like the same people own the company now. These are a different kind of owners, one that sees that creativity is the lifeblood of what built this company.
I bet those creative owners would be hacked if the value of their stake dropped substantially, creativity or not.
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