EPCOT 25th Gallery was CLOSED today - what's up?

HMF

Well-Known Member
Not when there is very little to showcase except existing attractions or attractions that never were or never will be built. DCA's Cellar is appropriate considering the scope of the park's refurbishment and retheme. Walt Disney World doesn't have nearly enough to fill even the former 25th Anniversary Gallery--at least at this point in time.
Well' maybe when I get into WDI because I have some MAJOR changes planned.:animwink:
 

jedimaster1227

Active Member
Well' maybe when I get into WDI because I have some MAJOR changes planned.:animwink:

With budget in mind, major is very much a relative term--but I'm hopeful for you, as well as myself that we have a chance in this wonderful company! :wave:

Bet they close it the second the refurb is done!:rolleyes::lol:
-:fork:

It will. A new preview center for the resort will be located inside of the newly constructed Carthay Circle Theater at California Adventure. Since the Walt Disney Story was cancelled the theater's use was altered to be that of a preview center. The Blue Sky Cellar will likely be converted into a new attraction (or a restaurant if my bets are right) following the transfer of all remaining exhibits to the Carthay Circle.
 

hrcollectibles

Active Member
Maybe they want to hide the past from Future generations. "No kids Mission space has always been here. There was never anything on the Horizon"

I think each park should have an area where the show the history of the park
 

Epcotrob

New Member
Yep.



Wow...Alrighty then.Thanks for helping in the friendly debate. :wave:

(not the only one on tonight, I might add...Didn't the Senator do great?;):lookaroun)

So yeah...You honestly think that it would have been hard to make that permanent?
You and the rest of the wonderful management over at Epcot. Not EPCOT.

I miss the Gallery as much as everyone here. With that said I do feel that it would of been hard for them to keep it open. All that would be left to open to us would be the clipart on the walls. The memorabilia inside the gallery was on loan from fanboys like US. Disney HAD to return it to them. They did not own everything in the gallery.

Yes I did visit it while it was there at least every week.(martin can back me up on this) Heck, Martin and I spent like an hour in that room in July. I think 1 CM stuck her head in to see if anyone was in there and then she was gone. I would say for the 50+ times I walked into the gallery there was no one in there about 75% of the time.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Dont forgot that you learn how to say dude and cha. :p

You gotta be kidding!:rolleyes::ROFLOL:

I miss the Gallery as much as everyone here. With that said I do feel that it would of been hard for them to keep it open. All that would be left to open to us would be the clipart on the walls. The memorabilia inside the gallery was on loan from fanboys like US. Disney HAD to return it to them. They did not own everything in the gallery.

Yes I did visit it while it was there at least every week.(martin can back me up on this) Heck, Martin and I spent like an hour in that room in July. I think 1 CM stuck her head in to see if anyone was in there and then she was gone. I would say for the 50+ times I walked into the gallery there was no one in there about 75% of the time.
Really...How do you know that?:veryconfu

I thought it was from the archives...?
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
I miss the Gallery as much as everyone here. With that said I do feel that it would of been hard for them to keep it open. All that would be left to open to us would be the clipart on the walls. The memorabilia inside the gallery was on loan from fanboys like US. Disney HAD to return it to them. They did not own everything in the gallery.

Yes I did visit it while it was there at least every week.(martin can back me up on this) Heck, Martin and I spent like an hour in that room in July. I think 1 CM stuck her head in to see if anyone was in there and then she was gone. I would say for the 50+ times I walked into the gallery there was no one in there about 75% of the time.

You gotta be kidding!:rolleyes::ROFLOL:


Really...How do you know that?:veryconfu

I thought it was from the archives...?

Yeah! I want to know who owns the Robot Butler! :lol:

But I think that any real fanboy would be quite happy continuing to let his/her stuff be displayed in the park.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Yeah! I want to know who owns the Robot Butler! :lol:

But I think that any real fanboy would be quite happy continuing to let his/her stuff be displayed in the park.


Yeah, seriously. If WDW were to call up and request that a few of my "artifacts" to be displayed I would SO oblidge.:)
 

GatorGambit

Member
No, I did not say that Sea Base Alpha should have been designed differently when it first opened. Back then it worked. In today's world it did not. It had very little attendance and the only interesting thing to do there was the ride and hydrolators. The ride closed and was thought to never return. The pavilion quickly lost it's main draw and appeal. It became outdated and unimportant to today's audience.

If I remember correctly, the SeaCabs ride closed in preparation for the conversion to The Seas with Nemo, long after Turtle Talk had been installed. Attendance fell due to refurbishment basically making The Seas a paviollion only running at half capacity.

Nemo on the other hand is a relavent property that is one of Pixar's highest grossing films. Sea Base Alpha needed to be redesigned and along came a little clown fish and a sea turtle.

Yes, Nemo is relevant to the material. The problem is that now, Nemo is the material, not the Seas. Instead of the Seas being the material and Nemo being the supporting cast.

As for Nemo losing it's appeal over time we all know the same happened to Cinderella, Snow White, and that little Mouse nobody has ever heard of. :rolleyes:

Yes, but notice that those characters all have attractions in a concentrated themed area that is dedicated to Disney Characters (Fantasyland & Mickey's Toon Refugee Tent Camp). TSM works because it's in a themed area dedicated to Pixar Characters. Other themed locations featuring Disney characters in attractions that don't match the themeing have been hit or miss, mostly miss (using Tomorrowland as an example: Buzz Lightyear = hit, Stitch's Great Mistake & MILF = miss).

I will say that there's also a general theme to the hits vs. misses: Buzz Lightyear was a new and original concept, where others were ill conveived attempts to throw characters where they didn't belong. Stitch certaintly fits into that - it is a sloppy rethemeing of AE. The Seas with Nemo fits into that too: throw in a cool (and often non-working) effect of a character, paint all of the walls some boring color, and off you go. Seabase Alpha now resembles a Stanley Kubrick movie set more than it does a Seabase.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I think you may be mistaking poorly-designed attractions with poorly-chosen characters. Honestly, the source material matters little at Disney World. What matters is the execution. Many would argue that Song of the South is a pretty horrid movie (certainly a very unknown one), but Splash Mountain has an excellent attraction and it will always remain popular. Stitch and the Laugh Floor are simply poorly executed attractions, and that will be shown in each attraction's shelf life. I would guess they will be gone long before Splash Mountain. The characters they chose isn't the problem, it's the attraction itself. Take for example Journey Into Imagination. Figment is an incredibly endearing character, but the current version of the ride is poorly executed and the attraction fails as a result.

Putting Monsters, Inc. in Tomorrowland wasn't a mistake, I don't think--the mistake was how they chose to add the characters. Something more like the ride that TDL is building would've fit in better and likely been very successful. Good attractions do well, regardless of where they are. It's the same reason I think most of us forgave Disney for putting in the Tower of Terror, which didn't exactly fit the idea behind MGM in 1994.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I think you may be mistaking poorly-designed attractions with poorly-chosen characters. Honestly, the source material matters little at Disney World. What matters is the execution. Many would argue that Song of the South is a pretty horrid movie (certainly a very unknown one), but Splash Mountain has an excellent attraction and it will always remain popular. Stitch and the Laugh Floor are simply poorly executed attractions, and that will be shown in each attraction's shelf life. I would guess they will be gone long before Splash Mountain. The characters they chose isn't the problem, it's the attraction itself. Take for example Journey Into Imagination. Figment is an incredibly endearing character, but the current version of the ride is poorly executed and the attraction fails as a result.

Putting Monsters, Inc. in Tomorrowland wasn't a mistake, I don't think--the mistake was how they chose to add the characters. Something more like the ride that TDL is building would've fit in better and likely been very successful. Good attractions do well, regardless of where they are. It's the same reason I think most of us forgave Disney for putting in the Tower of Terror, which didn't exactly fit the idea behind MGM in 1994.
Too true.;)
 
I would say for the 50+ times I walked into the gallery there was no one in there about 75% of the time.

I only found out the gallery was open when I came BACK from my trip to Epcot, last October. I heard it was still open this year, so was looking forward to going. However about a week before I went this year it closed :(
 

Epcotrob

New Member
You gotta be kidding!:rolleyes::ROFLOL:


Really...How do you know that?:veryconfu

I thought it was from the archives...?

There was a placard in the display case with the names of the kind folks that lent Disney the memorabilia for the gallery. Granted Disney didn't put their name in every case. But I believe it was in the case with the Records and stuff. As you entered the gallery it was the case on the sub level to the left of the stairs. The placard actually faced the staircase so it would be seen.

Now if Disney still owned all of the memorabilia that was in there , I would say shame on them for closing it. But they didn't. Im sad its gone, but just trying to explain why it had to close.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
There was a placard in the display case with the names of the kind folks that lent Disney the memorabilia for the gallery. Granted Disney didn't put their name in every case. But I believe it was in the case with the Records and stuff. As you entered the gallery it was the case on the sub level to the left of the stairs. The placard actually faced the staircase so it would be seen.

Now if Disney still owned all of the memorabilia that was in there , I would say shame on them for closing it. But they didn't. Im sad its gone, but just trying to explain why it had to close.

Wow...Interesting. So you think this is the reason for the closures? I can't believe Disney does not own their own retro merch!:eek::rolleyes::(
 

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